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Hockey Widow wrote: I didn't hate the Juolevi pick but my heart was with Taychook.
Losing the lottery left such a bad taste, to have had Laine or Mathews aiyah.

My hope was that rather than take the BPA that Benning would trade down from 5 to lower 1RP, if they are all gambles then why not go for the home runs. Logan Brown, Clayton Keller...both Fabbro and Jost off of Penticton...something exciting y'know?
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SKYO wrote: why not just let JV develop and let the team take their time molding this 20 year old at much slower pace than Ehlers and Nylander who were drafted right after him.

WHOA....

did SKYO just advocate NOT trading someone?!?? wtf?? his account hacked or something?? :D
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Reminiscing the JV moments:
http://www.canuckscorner.com/forums/vie ... &start=255


http://www.canuckscorner.com/forums/vie ... en#p207955
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The only thing I could find on the net regarding Benning moving up the draft was Gary Mason reporting on Team 1040 that Benning is trying hard to move up to draft Reinhart.

Loads of interviews out there regarding Gillis prodigy - Gilman with him gushing over the thoughts of drafting Virtanen. Benning was hired a month before the draft. Gilman and Gillis scouting department were still on the payroll at the draft and were known to be lovers of the idea of drafting Virtanen. Benning being the new guy, only here a month at the time, was outnumbered (Gillis wanted Nylander or wanted to move up to draft Reinhart) and wanted to show his respect for the scouting work that Gilman and Gillis scouting department had done over the season.
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My favourite one in there was Island Nucklehead gushing over Virtanen saying he has all the tools to be a Jeff Carter. Nice scouting, Island.
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Similar to defensemen, power forwards typically take longer to develop (Bertuzzi, Neely,...) than skilled forwards. I am not saying that Virtanen is the next Bertuzzi or Neely; however, the Canucks should be patient.
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RoyalDude wrote:
My favourite one in there was Island Nucklehead gushing over Virtanen saying he has all the tools to be a Jeff Carter. Nice scouting, Island.
My favourite is you comparing Ekblad to Chris Phillips.
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Ekblad isn't exactly having a great year is he.
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Man Jake Virtanen after the world juniors last year, I remember botchford, canucksarmy, passittobulis, EVERYONE was pissed he didn't play well at the world juniors and was DEMANDING willie to send Jake back to juniors, but he came back to the Canucks and in February was playing on fire.





He had some decent chemistry with Baertschi and Horvat who were in their 2nd half of the season scoring phase.

And then he lost his mojo the rest of the season, few odd goals here and there after.

After the season, I'm assuming between summer charity work with the canucks to offseason time off, he probably partied it up like a rock star with all that cash burning a hole in his pocket.

Came into camp like it was the 80's where you can work off the chubs in preseason, threw his weight around, and he hurt his shoulder....twice....shrugged it off, said he was ok, doctors said meh, and he was never the same..

Sedins and Burrows hinted around from last season to early this season the youth need to learn to act right, on and off the ice.

And now Virtanen is playing bummed out as he allegedly was/is pretty cocky growing up, is now getting humbled for the future power forward.
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I remember when everyone here laid into me last summer when I heard that Virtanen looked really out of shape, fat. Apparently Jakes Dad had better ideas for keeping Jake in shape than the Canucks did. Well, it's obvious that that didn't work, nice one Dad. Hey Papa Virtanen, stay the fuck out and let the Canucks staff work with Jake next summer.
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Island Nucklehead wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:
My favourite one in there was Island Nucklehead gushing over Virtanen saying he has all the tools to be a Jeff Carter. Nice scouting, Island.
My favourite is you comparing Ekblad to Chris Phillips.
LOL nice find. The Benning gulper just got owned.
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.... and Topper, right again, of course, noticing Jake's improved play through the tourney and hoping he'd carry it through his return to Vancouver.....and he did.

Lets not forget, Jake played well the last half of last season. I'm not sure what his role in Utica is but I would hope concentrates on playing without the puck and defensive positioning. Those were his two biggest weaknesses. If Green has him working on those roles, I wouldn't expect him to be putting up points that you stat column watchers concentrate so heavily on.
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According to people who watch the games he has been the shits.
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mr perfect wrote: One thing that happened recently bothers me about Virtanen. Utica was playing two in a row against St John's. On one play in the first game Virtanen loses his check and the Ice Caps player scores on the play. The player was Bobby Farnham, the guy playing for New Jersey last season who jumped Jake in a fight and then showboated afterward. If I'm Jake, Farnham doesn't score on that play because I give him the can opener, ride his ass into the boards then off go the gloves, giving Farnham another chance to showboat. Being that a lot isn't going right for Virtanen at the moment, doing something along those lines at least shows the organization that he has some fight and spirit in him. He doesn't have to be a goon but it would be nice to not appear as a quitter either.
Farnham is about as tough a fighter as Granlund and he punched the piss out of Virtanen. That was tough to wat h.
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Madcombinepilot wrote:
SKYO wrote: why not just let JV develop and let the team take their time molding this 20 year old at much slower pace than Ehlers and Nylander who were drafted right after him.

WHOA....

did SKYO just advocate NOT trading someone?!?? wtf?? his account hacked or something?? :D
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