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rats19 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2026 3:26 pm You figure out a way reef…..

I have none, I don't think anyone can figure out how to negotiate with him.

Negotiate with someone else instead. Europe. Asia-Pacific.

Trump is shooting himself in the foot. Nod and smile and go through the motions is what you do.

Massage the ego and appease their self absorbed needs is what to do with the narcissistic ones...

donlever wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2026 4:28 pm Massage the ego and appease their self absorbed needs is what to do with the narcissistic ones...

Exactly there is always a way…

Isn't that what what's her name did with her Nobel prize? Didn't get her anywhere.

And what did Infantino get for his fake peace prize?

I submit that the only way to get something out of Trump is to make sure he gets something out of it (personally). Like the campaign donations for pardons and dropped SEC investigations, or investing in his crypto schemes (I don't mean the dollards who bought his meme coins).

No one is talking about the massive borrowing the US is doing or the problems they are having in the bond market financing that debt.

$1.3 trillion in the first 9 months of the year with the Congressional Budget Office forecasting $1.9 trillion for fiscal 2026

They are financing now with short term bonds.

5thhorseman wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2026 5:26 pm I submit that the only way to get something out of Trump is to make sure he gets something out of it (personally).

Appease the self absorbed is what I said yes....

Topper wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2026 5:35 pm They are financing now with short term bonds.

I wasn't aware of that. Is that just new debt or are they also rolling over existing debt with short term bonds?

Could explain why he's so eager for the Fed to cut interest rates.

donlever wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2026 5:38 pm

5thhorseman wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2026 5:26 pm I submit that the only way to get something out of Trump is to make sure he gets something out of it (personally).

Appease the self absorbed is what I said yes....

My point is that the appeasement has to be financial. I was addressing Tciso's comment that Carney 'struck out'.

Gotcha....we've all dealt with these guys in our lives.

At times you can turn and walk which is fine, best not to waste precious minutes on self-aggrandizing cunts.

But....other times you're stuck and the way to deal with 'em, as you know, is to stroke them until you get what you want/need.

Then walk.

Leves knows….

... how to stroke them?

Play the game….

Topper wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2026 5:53 pm https://fortune.com/2026/07/20/us-debt- ... ate-hikes/

Playing with fire for sure and one would think there's a limit to all this borrowing but it never seems to come.