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Topper wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:35 am
Reef. Facts too difficult for you?
No - but it seems the irony of name of the writer and how they actually write seems be lost on you.
In today's world I can find a hundred threads, forums, comments that contradicts many parts of his write up. People hear what they want to heard.
WPE
Holy shit Reef, you make absolutely no sense at all! Who cares how many opinions you can find on the Internet.
Why not try this: find some FACTS that contradict the write-up. Engage and win a debate about it. If people still refuse to change their mind, then you're entitled to say that "people hear what they want to be heard (sic)".
But I reckon instead you'll continue with your defeatist mumbo-jumbo.
Per wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:42 pm
Also, the separation was never required by law. It was just a policy decision, which is why he himself could stop it without any need for congress to do anything.
Lord Trump had to separate families to effectively enforce the law as it is spelled out.
Congress failed to perma-fix this so Lord trump issued this EO as a stopgap.
Congress still needs to deal with this as the Supreme Court could toss the EO.
What happens going forward when it is proven that some of these "parents" are in reality human traffickers?
(happens all the time, but now they'll be locking them up with the kids)
Also I think children in these situations can only legally be detained for 20 days, so what happens after 20 days?
Congress is dysfunctional these days, which is why EOs are more and more common (I believe Obama set a new record).
Nice to see the NY Times and the Washington Post agree with me...
But ending the practice of separating families still faces legal and practical obstacles. A federal judge could refuse to give the Trump administration the authority it wants to hold families in custody for more than 20 days, which is the current limit because of a 1997 court order.
The plan would keep families together in federal custody while awaiting prosecution for illegal border crossings, potentially violating a 1997 court settlement limiting the duration of child detentions.
It takes much more than 20 days to prosecute the parents.
So again I ask "What happens after 20 days?"
Congress has needed to fix this for decades and keeps failing to do so...
Topper wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:35 am
Reef. Facts too difficult for you?
No - but it seems the irony of name of the writer and how they actually write seems be lost on you.
In today's world I can find a hundred threads, forums, comments that contradicts many parts of his write up. People hear what they want to heard.
WPE
Holy shit Reef, you make absolutely no sense at all! Who cares how many opinions you can find on the Internet.
Why not try this: find some FACTS that contradict the write-up. Engage and win a debate about it. If people still refuse to change their mind, then you're entitled to say that "people hear what they want to be heard (sic)".
But I reckon instead you'll continue with your defeatist mumbo-jumbo.
Why? It is another opinion.
WHAT I was trying to say, maybe you do not comprehend this part was the fact about the authors name BUT he/she then goes on to give a biased opinion.
I am not even saying it is right or wrong but if you want to state facts then keep it that way.