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[Argay Ham]

Clearly the extra 3 mill is weighing him down.

Waddya have to get paid to have a nut sack these days?

Blob, ya wanna field this one?

[Blob Mckenzie]

Clearly the extra 3 mill is weighing him down.

Waddya have to get paid to have a nut sack these days?

Blob, ya wanna field this one?

I say move him if there's a decent deal. He's the second bulbous tumor. Peter is a joke but so is Miller. A wannabe Ryan Kesler. Mark Messier or Scott Stevens would shred this character. He didn't act up when the Sheriff was here. Paper Bully.

[Hockey Widow]

What irks me is that we pissed away 5 points we should have/could have had while giving LA 2 points. Blowing leads, playing a 20 minute game, lethargic uninterested play this last road trip. Those 5 points would have us up 6 points to the closest team trying for that last wild card spot. Hell, they would have us 3rd in the Pacific. Look back on the last road trip and that is where the season was blown. We had a chance to be in a respectful position heading to the TDD.

My only hope is that the Canucks management is being privately honest with themselves about the state of the team. Sell the lie, that's ok, but dont be buyers. Time to send out any player you dont see fitting with the team over the next 2-3 years and getting the best return and cap space. Move on from Boeser, Suter, Soucy, Demko, Hoglander, and if you hit a home run move on from Pettersson. Shut Hughes down if you have to. Play the hell out of the kids if you can. Not Bains or Aman. Get Raty and Lekkermaki in the lineup. Let Junior and Mancini play. Sign Willander and get him some games.

This is the most frustrating of seasons.

[2Fingers]

We all know what they should do but in reality they will be buyers. Look for our first to be gone and I see BB getting 7x$8M.

This management team can’t control the owners better than any better than the previous ones.

I have no hope for a good playoff run in the coming years.

[Tciso]

HW, I'd hold onto Hogs, but I agree with the rest.

My only other question is what do we do with Tocchet?

Obviously keep him for the rest of this year (so we don't get a new coach dead cat bounce). But is he the guy to coach us at the next level?

[Lancer]

What irks me is that we pissed away 5 points we should have/could have had while giving LA 2 points. Blowing leads, playing a 20 minute game, lethargic uninterested play this last road trip. Those 5 points would have us up 6 points to the closest team trying for that last wild card spot. Hell, they would have us 3rd in the Pacific. Look back on the last road trip and that is where the season was blown. We had a chance to be in a respectful position heading to the TDD.

My only hope is that the Canucks management is being privately honest with themselves about the state of the team. Sell the lie, that's ok, but dont be buyers. Time to send out any player you dont see fitting with the team over the next 2-3 years and getting the best return and cap space. Move on from Boeser, Suter, Soucy, Demko, Hoglander, and if you hit a home run move on from Pettersson. Shut Hughes down if you have to. Play the hell out of the kids if you can. Not Bains or Aman. Get Raty and Lekkermaki in the lineup. Let Junior and Mancini play. Sign Willander and get him some games.

This is the most frustrating of seasons.

I've said it before, this season is a wash and management should treat it as such. The team's play since the 4 Nations pretty much sums the team up: pop-gun offence buttressed by a slew of middle-of-the-roster players having career years that is mentally not able to withstand pressure. For all the work of the likes of Suter, Sherwood and Garland, the team is being dragged down by Petey, Brock and Miller/Chytil.

I agree, shut down Hughes the rest of the way. For that matter, shut down Petey and Demko while they're at it. Bring up the promising kids like Lekky; please no more Bains and Sasson unless the objective is to get as high a pick as possible in the draft - not a bad thing, even if it means a borderline unwatchable team the rest of the way. Of course this season unfolds this way when I finally splurge to fly the family to Vancouver for the game against Winnipeg on 18 March. Even if they don't shut down everyone and play the kids, I'm anticipating that Winnipeg will give them a stomping. First time watching the Canucks in Vancouver and this is the state of the team. My fucking luck...

[Blob Mckenzie]

HW, I'd hold onto Hogs, but I agree with the rest.

My only other question is what do we do with Tocchet?

Obviously keep him for the rest of this year (so we don't get a new coach dead cat bounce). But is he the guy to coach us at the next level?

He seemed to be the right coach last season. Really, can he be blamed for:

The Punching Bag destroying the dressing room
Elias Pettersson playing like Elias Lindholm
Demko being hurt all year
Management letting 2 key defenders walk
Dakota Joshua getting cancer

[Argay Ham]

HW, I'd hold onto Hogs, but I agree with the rest.

My only other question is what do we do with Tocchet?

Obviously keep him for the rest of this year (so we don't get a new coach dead cat bounce). But is he the guy to coach us at the next level?

He seemed to be the right coach last season. Really, can he be blamed for:

The Punching Bag destroying the dressing room
Elias Pettersson playing like Elias Lindholm
Demko being hurt all year
Management letting 2 key defenders walk
Dakota Joshua getting cancer

Not on the list…

The green M and M not being sexy enough anymore

That fuckin Tocchet I tell ya

Nah but Hog reminds me of a more off the reservation version of Honey Badger, 36.

He’s not Yakupov he actually uses his teammates but I find myself thinking he could make the best and worst plays on the ice in the same shift. He’s a pond hockey player and every good team should have 1 and only 1 of those guys.

[theman]

I am mixed on keeping Tocchet. Again, I really would go to Hughes and get his opinion on it. If he wants to play for Tocchet, keep him.

As for 'sucky Petey,' I get the feeling that if the Canucks keep Tocchet, I would trade him for the best return you can.

[dangler]

What irks me is that we pissed away 5 points we should have/could have had while giving LA 2 points. Blowing leads, playing a 20 minute game, lethargic uninterested play this last road trip. Those 5 points would have us up 6 points to the closest team trying for that last wild card spot. Hell, they would have us 3rd in the Pacific. Look back on the last road trip and that is where the season was blown. We had a chance to be in a respectful position heading to the TDD.

My only hope is that the Canucks management is being privately honest with themselves about the state of the team. Sell the lie, that's ok, but dont be buyers. Time to send out any player you dont see fitting with the team over the next 2-3 years and getting the best return and cap space. Move on from Boeser, Suter, Soucy, Demko, Hoglander, and if you hit a home run move on from Pettersson. Shut Hughes down if you have to. Play the hell out of the kids if you can. Not Bains or Aman. Get Raty and Lekkermaki in the lineup. Let Junior and Mancini play. Sign Willander and get him some games.

This is the most frustrating of seasons.

Whatever the problem was with Miller/Pettersson, it's still there. Most of the team looks unhappy and uninspired.
I agree with your rest-of-season strategy if they don't turn it around in the next few games.
Definitely don't be buyers anyway.
I'd keep Suter,his versatility is invaluable and he can score too.
Demko...unless someone offers a great return i'd hang on to him in the hopes of a return to form. Him and Lankinen could take the team far if the stars align.

[theman]

What irks me is that we pissed away 5 points we should have/could have had while giving LA 2 points. Blowing leads, playing a 20 minute game, lethargic uninterested play this last road trip. Those 5 points would have us up 6 points to the closest team trying for that last wild card spot. Hell, they would have us 3rd in the Pacific. Look back on the last road trip and that is where the season was blown. We had a chance to be in a respectful position heading to the TDD.

My only hope is that the Canucks management is being privately honest with themselves about the state of the team. Sell the lie, that's ok, but dont be buyers. Time to send out any player you dont see fitting with the team over the next 2-3 years and getting the best return and cap space. Move on from Boeser, Suter, Soucy, Demko, Hoglander, and if you hit a home run move on from Pettersson. Shut Hughes down if you have to. Play the hell out of the kids if you can. Not Bains or Aman. Get Raty and Lekkermaki in the lineup. Let Junior and Mancini play. Sign Willander and get him some games.

This is the most frustrating of seasons.

Whatever the problem was with Miller/Pettersson, it's still there. Most of the team looks unhappy and uninspired.
I agree with your rest-of-season strategy if they don't turn it around in the next few games.
Definitely don't be buyers anyway.
I'd keep Suter,his versatility is invaluable and he can score too.
Demko...unless someone offers a great return i'd hang on to him in the hopes of a return to form. Him and Lankinen could take the team far if the stars align.

I would shut him down for the remainder of the year and happily bring him back next season to form that goalie tandem. Only trade him if a team offers a great package for him.

Suter, would probably trade him for a pick and the TDL. Canucks could always resign him in the off season.

Petey, either trade him or shut him down (like Demko) to get things fixed for next season.

Boeser - trade him to Winnipeg for their first, maybe the Canucks could get a bit more for him?

Forbert/Soucey - trade for picks

[theman]

Rumours flying about about Boeser, seems like the Canucks and his camp are close on AAV but differ on term. Canucks want 5 years but he wants 6 - 7 years. Rumour AAV is between 7.5 - 8 mil per, yikes. I would not re-sign him for that.

[Lancer]

Rumours flying about about Boeser, seems like the Canucks and his camp are close on AAV but differ on term. Canucks want 5 years but he wants 6 - 7 years. Rumour AAV is between 7.5 - 8 mil per, yikes. I would not re-sign him for that.

Yeah, a little much in terms of AAV and term when Lekky is around the corner.

What management does with Boeser will tell folks what they think of this core moving forward. If they sign him, it would seem to say that they think this was a Murphy season, but the room is alright and will turn it around. Trade him at the TDD would say that management has flushed this season already, and significant changes will come. Trade him before 1 July, and it's a matter of negotiating impasse, and management doesn't want to lose him for nothing vice making a statement.

There's a place in my heart for the kid since he was drafted, but last year is looking like a mirage and $8 million a year for a 25-30 goal scorer is a bit rich.

[2Fingers]

Canucks management is their own worst enemy. I applaud their commitment to the players but it’s time to move on from BB, trade him for a haul and bring up the kids.

Zero chance this will happen of course, Canucks will be buyers and we once again is mortgaging our future for today.

[Argay Ham]

Rumours flying about about Boeser, seems like the Canucks and his camp are close on AAV but differ on term. Canucks want 5 years but he wants 6 - 7 years. Rumour AAV is between 7.5 - 8 mil per, yikes. I would not re-sign him for that.

I'm fine giving him $8M, but he ain't getting a fucking NMC/TC for me on that. Maybe a 5-team No Trade list but that's about it.