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And remind us how much Katys bf paid for the pl Topper.

donlever wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2026 11:07 am And remind us how much Katys bf paid for the pl Topper.

$4.7 Billion to Kinder Morgan (Trans Mountain) for their interest in the pipeline. $34+ billion to build it. Kinder Morgan projected the expansion cost at $6.8 billion. After the Feds bought it, they projected the cost at +$29 billion.

You could say Justin and Horgan added $28 billion to the cost of the project.

Laughable.

donlever wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2026 11:21 amLaughable.

From a gallows perspective.

Topper wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2026 10:03 am UW, you are correct on the Trade front, etc.

Thanks for the posts. Good info.

We have the same kinds of battles in the US, often over the same kinds of issues. Legal battles and regulatory patchworks can turf what should be beneficial projects from time to time, but I while this sometimes happens in the US, it seems *generally* easier here to build stuff as compared with Canada. Maybe that's less about structure and more about societal and governmental disposition and individual policy choices and applications.

There's good justification to regulate much of what's regulated and the policy questions that divide people are "to what degree and how." One nice push-pull in the US is that for the past 45 years we've had one political party that comes at regulation with the disposition that its too much and too slow/cumbersome, so you get periodic administrative reforms that address what's sclerotic or antiquated. To be sure, those on the left don't like those administrations' substantive choices in many regulatory areas, and that Republican disposition is not always accurate depending on the regulation, but you need periodic deep reforms that may go too far at times or in some areas to avoid that dystopia where regulation is an unthinking and unreflective one-way ratchet and regulators think the public serves them and not the other way around.

Carney "Make America Great Again"

https://x.com/JackDan110/status/2060084 ... 81785?s=20

Topper wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2026 8:41 pm Carney "Make America Great Again"

https://x.com/JackDan110/status/2060084 ... 81785?s=20

Does Carney making America Great again align with Carney's New World Order?

That’s the good thing about the EU. It used to be that each country had its own rules and regulations, but now academic degrees issued in one member state must be recognized throughout the union and consumer products follow common rules that apply throughout the entire union as well. This means you can ship products from Finland to Spain without unnecessary paperwork and border checks. The reduction of red tape achieved through harmonizing rules is enormous. Now, to ensure the acceptance throughout the common market we have had to agree on what terms mean. Thus marmalade must contain at least 200g fruit per kg and juice is not allowed to contain anything but pressed fruit (and possibly a minute amount of ascorbic acid) If you have any other additives it must be rebranded as ”fruit drink” or ”nectar”. Also, no hormones are allowed in animal husbandry. Some criticize these rules as excessive, but they are the lubricant that makes sure an Italian store can order a product from Poland and know what they get. And often the common denominator has been removing trade barriers. It used to be that headlights on cars in France had to be yellow and in Germany white. This complicated matters for car producers, having to follow different standards for neighbouring markets, Now they can be either or, and basically the yellow headlights have more or less disappeared as that was basically just a French quirk to provide protection for their local car brands. Now they can’t do that anymore. The Germans are a bit peeved though that sub-par foreign beer now can be sold as beer in Germany. They had a law from the 14th century stating that beer must never contain anything but water, malt, hops and yeast. The EU regulations are far more lenient.

Per wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2026 1:48 pm That’s the good thing about the EU. It used to be that each country had its own rules and regulations, but now academic degrees issued in one member state must be recognized throughout the union and consumer products follow common rules that apply throughout the entire union as well. This means you can ship products from Finland to Spain without unnecessary paperwork and border checks. The reduction of red tape achieved through harmonizing rules is enormous. Now, to ensure the acceptance throughout the common market we have had to agree on what terms mean. Thus marmalade must contain at least 200g fruit per kg and juice is not allowed to contain anything but pressed fruit (and possibly a minute amount of ascorbic acid) If you have any other additives it must be rebranded as ”fruit drink” or ”nectar”. Also, no hormones are allowed in animal husbandry. Some criticize these rules as excessive, but they are the lubricant that makes sure an Italian store can order a product from Poland and know what they get. And often the common denominator has been removing trade barriers. It used to be that headlights on cars in France had to be yellow and in Germany white. This complicated matters for car producers, having to follow different standards for neighbouring markets, Now they can be either or, and basically the yellow headlights have more or less disappeared as that was basically just a French quirk to provide protection for their local car brands. Now they can’t do that anymore. The Germans are a bit peeved though that sub-par foreign beer now can be sold as beer in Germany. They had a law from the 14th century stating that beer must never contain anything but water, malt, hops and yeast. The EU regulations are far more lenient.

If the Germans are peeved at sub-par foreign beers, then just don't buy them - problem solved. Here in Alberta, we get beers from all over the world. It doesn't bother me at all, as I prefer Canadian beer. If someone likes a foreign beer, I see no problem in them having access to it at the local liquor outlet.

Yep, the Germans love their purity laws

Hey what's wrong with clear beer?

Don't mind Cookie. That's just the Bud Light talking.

I am trying to figure out the investment rules in Canada.

If you (private company)want to build a really big thing (hundreds of millions into billions of $$), you need 10 to 15 years of approvals, and a government projects approval now too.

But, if the government wants to spend money, it ignores its own procurement rules and just does it. For example, we have had no competition on the proposed 12 subs. We have flip flopped on what aircraft to buy, after we had a competition and we have no defined role for the 2nd aircraft. $200m on a concrete pad called a spaceport. 6 AWACS from Sweden, again without any competition.

Yes we need military equipment, but what happened to due diligence and building a coherent military strategy first?

On the AWACS, there isn't much for competition. The Boeing was halted by the US leaving the Bombarier platform with either Harris or Saab onboard systems. Saab is by far the most commonly used.

On the Mega projects, you forgot the 20 year court battles with FN's and their NGO's.