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How does one exactly "win" on a canucks messageboard?herb wrote:I win.
LOL if you insist on labling Panic Attack "elite" that's your choice I suppose.Betamax wrote:Uh, Mr. Raak had only played 13 more games during that four year timespan and is only 1 years younger. Furthermore, less games played up to that point means that their are less miles on the odometer, so he will be fresh, well into his 30s ....... like, uh, a Tim Thomas who managed to show he was elite and Vezina winning in his 30s while playing very few games in his 20s.Strangelove wrote:^^^ FFS those numbers are well known.
(as are the Games Played numbers at age 28)
UMMMM we'll let you know if&when Panic Attack ever achieves "elite-ness".... MMMMkay?
Strangelove wrote:Aaron, deleted your post because you quoted something I had previously deleted.
Nice to see you were in agreement with me, poster has been spoken to, it's all good.
I'm sure we'll all get along famously from this point forward.
Low risk, potentially high-reward pick-up. If Heatley sucks, which is a distinctly possible outcome, they waive him and eat just 100K while he goes to the minors. Hardly a major risk if he can rebound from a horrific year and a half in Minny.Strangelove wrote:Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger · 12s
$1mil for 1 yr. Heatley signs with Ducks
Probably a PP specialist at this point?
#shorthandedgoalsbaby
Kind of like beating a Special Olympianherb wrote:Over the length of their contracts, Toews and Kane are going to be paid more than their counterparts around the league.Aaronp18 wrote:Well no, he's right.
He spoke of "per year" and "hit" in his post referencing AAV essentially. Which realistically when it comes to the year to year business of hockey is what really matters because it affects the teams ability to add players to their roster.
I could care less what Aqualung spends per year on a player what matters is their cap hit.
My speculation is that their peak years will be right around the $12M (though they could make up to $13.8M if the 20% rule still exists) that Crosby takes home lowering to $6M at the end of their contract following the new CBA rules. But again what affects the competitiveness of a team is the actual cap hit not the dollars paid in a given year, for teams willing to spend to the cap anyways.
Kane and Toews may tie up approx 30% of the cap next year (depending on how much the cap goes up). That is a lot and will hinder the Blackhawks ability to add salary and the talent that goes along with it.
Crosby definitely took a healthy cap hit contract in order to allow the Penguins to spend more on other players. He also has that thing with the #87 so well there's that.
But over the length of their contracts Kane and Toews will average about $2M more per year than Crosby's current contract and he is bang on about averaging $1M per year more than Malkin.
Perhaps my previous post was worded sloppily, but the only thing that matters from a fan's perspective in a cap world is a player's cap hit and how cap space is allocated amongst the players on the team.
Nobody talks about cash out the door...talking heads and fans alike all talk about cap hit or AAV. Who cares about salary?
Anyway, over the terms of the Toews and Kane contracts (2015-16 to 2022-23) Crosby is going to get paid, in salary, $74.4M. Toews and Kane are going to be compensated, in salary, $84M.
I win.
No Blob, it's exactly like that.Blob Mckenzie wrote:Kind of like beating a Special Olympianherb wrote:Over the length of their contracts, Toews and Kane are going to be paid more than their counterparts around the league.Aaronp18 wrote:Well no, he's right.
He spoke of "per year" and "hit" in his post referencing AAV essentially. Which realistically when it comes to the year to year business of hockey is what really matters because it affects the teams ability to add players to their roster.
I could care less what Aqualung spends per year on a player what matters is their cap hit.
My speculation is that their peak years will be right around the $12M (though they could make up to $13.8M if the 20% rule still exists) that Crosby takes home lowering to $6M at the end of their contract following the new CBA rules. But again what affects the competitiveness of a team is the actual cap hit not the dollars paid in a given year, for teams willing to spend to the cap anyways.
Kane and Toews may tie up approx 30% of the cap next year (depending on how much the cap goes up). That is a lot and will hinder the Blackhawks ability to add salary and the talent that goes along with it.
Crosby definitely took a healthy cap hit contract in order to allow the Penguins to spend more on other players. He also has that thing with the #87 so well there's that.
But over the length of their contracts Kane and Toews will average about $2M more per year than Crosby's current contract and he is bang on about averaging $1M per year more than Malkin.
Perhaps my previous post was worded sloppily, but the only thing that matters from a fan's perspective in a cap world is a player's cap hit and how cap space is allocated amongst the players on the team.
Nobody talks about cash out the door...talking heads and fans alike all talk about cap hit or AAV. Who cares about salary?
Anyway, over the terms of the Toews and Kane contracts (2015-16 to 2022-23) Crosby is going to get paid, in salary, $74.4M. Toews and Kane are going to be compensated, in salary, $84M.
I win.
Yeah but you still have to do it, I mean the alternative is to lose?!?!Blob Mckenzie wrote:Kind of like beating a Special Olympianherb wrote:Over the length of their contracts, Toews and Kane are going to be paid more than their counterparts around the league.Aaronp18 wrote:Well no, he's right.
He spoke of "per year" and "hit" in his post referencing AAV essentially. Which realistically when it comes to the year to year business of hockey is what really matters because it affects the teams ability to add players to their roster.
I could care less what Aqualung spends per year on a player what matters is their cap hit.
My speculation is that their peak years will be right around the $12M (though they could make up to $13.8M if the 20% rule still exists) that Crosby takes home lowering to $6M at the end of their contract following the new CBA rules. But again what affects the competitiveness of a team is the actual cap hit not the dollars paid in a given year, for teams willing to spend to the cap anyways.
Kane and Toews may tie up approx 30% of the cap next year (depending on how much the cap goes up). That is a lot and will hinder the Blackhawks ability to add salary and the talent that goes along with it.
Crosby definitely took a healthy cap hit contract in order to allow the Penguins to spend more on other players. He also has that thing with the #87 so well there's that.
But over the length of their contracts Kane and Toews will average about $2M more per year than Crosby's current contract and he is bang on about averaging $1M per year more than Malkin.
Perhaps my previous post was worded sloppily, but the only thing that matters from a fan's perspective in a cap world is a player's cap hit and how cap space is allocated amongst the players on the team.
Nobody talks about cash out the door...talking heads and fans alike all talk about cap hit or AAV. Who cares about salary?
Anyway, over the terms of the Toews and Kane contracts (2015-16 to 2022-23) Crosby is going to get paid, in salary, $74.4M. Toews and Kane are going to be compensated, in salary, $84M.
I win.
Oh, that's sooooo original Blob .... guess you learned that while being a Captain's Crew alumnus, right?Blob Mckenzie wrote:Kind of like beating a Special Olympian
Bo Horvat @BoHorvat
Great time at the Special Olympic opening ceremonies! Good luck to all the athletes! #TeamQuebecSelfie
7:40 PM - 8 Jul 2014
Betamax wrote:Moving forward, just make sure you distinguish the difference in what a player actually "makes" i.e. take home pay, and what their AAV is in relation to their peers.
Betamax wrote:In the whole scheme of things, it's minutia on the main point of the argument
Uh, could you please show some respect to a (Proud) member of the CC Hall of Fan and not juxtapose two separate quotes responding to two different topics and take them out of their context?BurningBeard wrote:Betamax wrote:Moving forward, just make sure you distinguish the difference in what a player actually "makes" i.e. take home pay, and what their AAV is in relation to their peers.Betamax wrote:In the whole scheme of things, it's minutia on the main point of the argument
