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dbr wrote:

black ace wrote:

dbr wrote:

Island Nucklehead wrote:Probably the "going rate" for Callahan, but I don't like it in term or dollars.

Speaking of the going rate.. with the cap increase already falling slightly this year, if revenue stagnates and the Canadian dollar gets weaker it'd probably be better for the long term interests of this franchise to mostly stay out of UFA and keep their space for future offseasons where inflation is much less of a factor.

Not going to happen. The cap is going to continue to rise and quite quickly.

The cap is going to continue to rise but will we see it jump roughly 10% like it is going to this season? I don't think so. Even with the players 5% increase option I have a hard time seeing average annual increases like this one over any sustained period.

If the increases slow down significantly, teams spending like that's not going to happen are going to be hurting. Teams that have more cap space will get better value for those cap dollars, and even with an average or mediocre UFA class a team with more space will be better able to get good value due to smaller amounts of inflation.

Don't get me wrong, there is no way the Canucks sit out of UFA in a year where they desperately need to improve and have a passable product to sell to the fans. I just think that if they're not going to contend next year, if the players in UFA are worse (as a whole) than ever and prices are higher than ever, there's no sense making long term commitments.

Betamax wrote:Let's see the new Canadian Television Deal comes into effect next season, teams with old arenas like the Oilers and NYI will be moving to high revenue generating new arenas within the next couple of years, and we will likely see an expansion of two teams within 5 years, IMO.

dbr wrote:

Island Nucklehead wrote:Probably the "going rate" for Callahan, but I don't like it in term or dollars.

Speaking of the going rate.. with the cap increase already falling slightly this year, if revenue stagnates and the Canadian dollar gets weaker it'd probably be better for the long term interests of this franchise to mostly stay out of UFA and keep their space for future offseasons where inflation is much less of a factor.

Jovocop wrote:I hate Bolland. I don't know I will cheer for the Canucks anymore....

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The Bolland camp won't do anything with Vancouver until they resolve the Ryan Kesler situation.

dbr wrote:

Betamax wrote:Let's see the new Canadian Television Deal comes into effect next season, teams with old arenas like the Oilers and NYI will be moving to high revenue generating new arenas within the next couple of years, and we will likely see an expansion of two teams within 5 years, IMO.

This year's cap increase comes after an artificially set cap number for two consecutive seasons, it does not reflect year over year growth and expecting future growth based on it would be foolhardy.

The Canadian TV deal comes into effect and then no new TV deal for 12 years.

liveschedules wrote:Hi, guys.

I'm trying to put together a list of how much each NHL team earns from its local TV contract, or at least find out the league average. There have been previous attempts to do this here (link) and there (link), but the info on the old threads is somewhat dated now. As most of you know, the NHL recently signed vastly improved national rights deals in both Canada and the US. It stands to reason that the size of local TV agreements has gone up a bit too.

The best data I've found is from this Forbes article (link), published in Nov 2013. Unfortunately, it only shows the ten teams with the highest-value contracts*:

*Update: new contracts added.

1. Montreal Canadiens - $61m/year ($68m CAD) (RDS); runs through 2025-26; (new deal starts next season; up from $33/year)
2. Toronto Maple leaves - $41m/year (Sportsnet, TSN, leaves TV); through 2014-15.
3. New York Rangers - $35m (MSG Network)
4. Ottawa Senators - $30m ($33m CAD) (TSN/RDS); through 2025-26; (deal starts next season: up from $10/yr)
5. Detroit Red Wings - $30m (Fox Sports Detroit); through 2018-19 or 19-20 (not sure)
6. Vancouver Canucks - $25m (Sportsnet Pacific, Sportsnet One); through 22-23 season
7. New York Islanders - $24m (MSG Network); through 2030-31
8. New Jersey Devils - $24m (MSG Network); through 2024-25
9. Dallas Stars - $20m (Fox Sports Southwest); ends this season
10. Los Angeles Kings - $20m (Fox Sports West); through 23-24
11. Pittsburgh Penguins - $18m (Root Sports); through 28-29

The annual average for those teams is $29.8m USD* (updated since original post). However, I've had a hard time finding reliable numbers for the other nineteen. In news articles and press releases about contract signings and extensions, dollar amounts are often not mentioned. For example, the Coyotes announced the signing of a 12-year deal with Fox Sports Arizona last November, but were conspicuously mum on how much they were going to be paid.

We all know that the smallest teams in the NHL don't make much from local TV deals. However, it would be nice to know whether teams at the very bottom make only a little less than other teams in the bottom third, or are extreme outliers that depress the league average. If any of you happen to remember hearing or reading about your teams' local TV contract, please post here. (PS: This is my first post. Thanks for bearing with me so far.)

Expansion will lead to an overall increase in HRR but as the expansion fees are not included in that sum the two new franchises would have to immediately become above average revenue teams to drive up the cap number (HRR / # of contracts on the books - any expansion team increases both values).

And none of this touches the most important variable of all, the Canadian dollar: based on some Forbes figures and some quick scratch math, about 27% of league revenues (and 61% of its operating income) are from franchises in Canada. Devaluing the currency is seen as one of a small number of ways to stimulate economic growth and most are predicting its value in comparison to the USD to remain poor for quite some time.

Mondi wrote:LA finally has a bad contract on the books!

7 years for Gabby is not best, not at 33.

But, he did earn it.

Hockey Widow wrote:Flyers have given Vinny camp permission to speak to other teams to try and secure a trade. The Flyers have been unable to move him so the feeling is his agent may be able to put something together. If a trade is worked out it will be a salary dump for the Flyers, they want to be done with his contract but have used their two compliance buyouts.

Todd Bersnoozi wrote:

Hockey Widow wrote:Flyers have given Vinny camp permission to speak to other teams to try and secure a trade. The Flyers have been unable to move him so the feeling is his agent may be able to put something together. If a trade is worked out it will be a salary dump for the Flyers, they want to be done with his contract but have used their two compliance buyouts.

Wow, Phillie throws money around like toilet paper. Didn't they just sign Vinny last year? They bought out a couple of other guys with fat contracts as well (Bryzgalov and another guy).

Todd Bersnoozi wrote:

Hockey Widow wrote:Flyers have given Vinny camp permission to speak to other teams to try and secure a trade. The Flyers have been unable to move him so the feeling is his agent may be able to put something together. If a trade is worked out it will be a salary dump for the Flyers, they want to be done with his contract but have used their two compliance buyouts.

Wow, Phillie throws money around like toilet paper. Didn't they just sign Vinny last year? They bought out a couple of other guys with fat contracts as well (Bryzgalov and another guy).

dbr wrote:I don't think the regional TV deals will be that big a deal.

Montreal and Toronto may add $30m to the pot each and others will surely add some as well but divide that by 30 franchises and then half it and see what it does to the salary cap midpoint.. not much.

I'm not sure why Seattle is such a sure bet to be an above average revenue franchise - right now they have no building, they don't have much of a pro hockey tradition to speak of and any NHL franchise will be directly competing with an NBA franchise in addition to virtually every other major sport as well. Quebec, sure, that's one franchise. Other than that (since we're extremely unlikely to see another southern Ontario franchise) I don't see any other no brainer potential locations out there. And if the dollar falls even Quebec isn't a sure thing.

As it currently stands, the 2015-16 salary cap should now easily exceed $74-million.

Hockey Widow wrote:Flyers have given Vinny camp permission to speak to other teams to try and secure a trade. The Flyers have been unable to move him so the feeling is his agent may be able to put something together. If a trade is worked out it will be a salary dump for the Flyers, they want to be done with his contract but have used their two compliance buyouts.