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Carlyee wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:49 pm I try not to post here but I feel I must try and offer you a little insight to training. This is not an all encompassing post but cherry picked to try and assist you. Because it is pretty clear you don't really understand what's going on.
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Aaronp18 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 3:11 pm

RoyalDude wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:29 pm What did I miss? Worth the pit stop? Or should I just continue on full steam?

5thhorseman wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:01 pm Haha, nice to have a few chuckles before heading off to bed. I'm sure that head injury will heal up soon enough

Topper wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:56 pm

Carlyee wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:49 pm I try not to post here but I feel I must try and offer you a little insight to training. This is not an all encompassing post but cherry picked to try and assist you. Because it is pretty clear you don't really understand what's going on.
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Sharp, razor sharp.

ESQ wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:28 am Kinda funny how women's and men's tennis is still being dominated by players who've been peaking for 13-18 years...

What's in those multi-coloured drinks anyway?!

Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:09 pm Lmfao this thread went haywire

micky107 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 2:40 pm

Carlyee wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:49 pm

micky107 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:01 am No-Way. Don't believe it.
It's all about money and how to extract it from players by making them think they need expensive off-ice programs.

It's just like "energy drinks" are good for athletes.
May as well drink poison!

It's the money they bring. It's freaking huge.

Look at how fragile modern day tennis players are.
It's a joke.

I try not to post here but I feel I must try and offer you a little insight to training. This is not an all encompassing post but cherry picked to try and assist you. Because it is pretty clear you don't really understand what's going on.

Take a look at this:

https://www.ptdirect.com/training-desig ... n-overview

There are plenty of sources you can reference to learn about the 3 energy systems that humans use. With respect to your line of reasoning, while it varies slightly from source to source the consensus appears to be that tennis players actually derive more of their total energy from the ATP PCr energy pathway than hockey players do. Ignore body contact and consider this as well, tennis is a higher impact sport than hockey. So tennis athletes use the best energy system more and put more strain on their body than a hockey player does. Tennis was a poor comparison to choose.

Your posts appear to indicate that you have not performed at a high physical level. This is an assumption on my part. Try not to get defensive, I have not in a very long time either. But one coach I had said something like this "who told you practice makes perfect?, He was an idiot, perfect practice makes perfect". Practicing, and perfecting skills can only happen once the basics are covered. In other words dry land or off ice training builds the foundation for on ice training. Strength, endurance, speed, flexibility, agility and discipline can all be improved with off ice training. Once these factors are locked in on-ice training, or specialized training is used for skill set improvements, systems practice etc. Boil this down to the lowest denominator, who has more fun playing adult rec league hockey? The guy that works out 6 days a week or the guy that plays hockey once a week? Who is more useful to his team?

Ice time is more expensive than gym time too. So I really can't understand what you are throwing cost into the argument for.

Here is some more reading, in no particular order.

https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/3-ener ... rainer.htm

http://www.itftennis.com/scienceandmedi ... rview.aspx

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3281210

For the sake of not getting my post deleted I would like to add that. Pettersson, in his early 20s can easily add muscle without sacrificing the other factors that make him the most exciting prospect to me in a long time. It will take longer and one has to be cognizant of not bulking for the sake of bulking. Fine line.

You would be best served not to try and assume. You will hurt whats' left of your brain.
I will leave for a while but let me make one thing very clear.
Don't ever think you are even remotely capable of judging me, shit for brains, or whatever you are.

ESQ wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:28 am Kinda funny how women's and men's tennis is still being dominated by players who've been peaking for 13-18 years...

What's in those multi-coloured drinks anyway?!

Tciso wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:30 am

Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:09 pm Lmfao this thread went haywire

I Dunno. Carlyee seems to be an up-and-coming CC Star. Solid analyitcs and advanced stats in that kid. Not like the old school "Gudbranson" style of Micky, that fails both the eye test and fails in all of the advanced stats departments.

We'll see how Carlyee handles training camp, but the kid looks promising.