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Strangelove wrote: If there's anything worse than losers, it's sore losers...

Yup. Like the nazis, who can't seem to get over losing WW2, or those still cheering for the Confederacy.

And those movements are merging. The American alt right and the European fascists and neonazis - they are all interconnected.

http://www.dn.se/nyheter/varlden/the-sw ... can-nazis/

If history has shown us anything it is the need for the victors of any conflict to exterminated the defeated lest they come to haunt them generations later.

Strangelove wrote:She just won't go away...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/electi ... at-n799611

Can't really understand why she isn't gone. Trump won and usually everyone just moves on...

The last time a republican somehow managed to take the Whitehouse Al Gore dropped off the planet. he couldn't get more than 5 minutes even with the uncomfortable truth. why isn't Hillary golfing with Gore in loserville?

Perhaps Trumpites cant let go? Perhaps they are hooked on the easy misdirection? Perhaps some need an intervention or to check into "Look Hillary sucks"rehab.

Mondi wrote:Republican congress and president haven't passed any major legislation since Trump took office.

So you disagree with your Antifa comrades?

(they have labelled Lord Trump a "fascist dictator")

Strangelove wrote: (they have labelled Lord Trump a "fascist dictator")

It's not for a lack of trying.

Island Nucklehead wrote:

Strangelove wrote: (they have labelled Lord Trump a "fascist dictator")

It's not for a lack of trying.

Careful IN, if you disagree with Antifa on this they will call you a white supremacist and attack!

Strangelove wrote:

Island Nucklehead wrote:

Strangelove wrote: (they have labelled Lord Trump a "fascist dictator")

It's not for a lack of trying.

Careful IN, if you disagree with Antifa on this they will call you call you a white supremacist and attack!

Cornuck wrote:

Mondi wrote: Trump does appear to have some dictatorial tenancies

Yet you say he "hasn't passed any major legislation".

Mondi wrote: , along with a VERY tenuous grasp of the concept of free speech.

How so?

Google this: "trump is right" nfl "First Amendment"

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/09/ ... again.html

NFL anthem controversy: Does the left ever want to win elections again?

My question to the Democrats (and media) is simple: What voters in that big chunk of the country turned red do you plan to win back on a platform of kneeling for the national anthem, revoking due process, removing monuments of our founders, sympathizing with jihad, glorifying property-destroying (and journalist-punching) thugs or backing Kim Jong Un in a nuclear showdown? The more the left has ramped up its cultural war, the more their governing power has diminished. Who cares if the Affordable Care Act wiped them from the electoral map, as long as Jimmy Kimmel gets his sick burns in.

Strangelove wrote:http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/09/ ... again.html

NFL anthem controversy ( ): Does the left ever want to win elections again?

- gibberish -.

Who the fuck writes this shit? The dems have a long way to go in a lot of areas, but when I read garbage like this, I have to wonder how the hell they lost in the first place. (oh yeah... mass ignorance).

C'mon Doc... you're better than this. You used to be able to troll and still keep some of your dignity intact.

Well I liked the article, but then I'm good with the Dems going to hell in a handbasket.

Mondi wrote:

Strangelove wrote:

Mondi wrote: Trump does appear to have some dictatorial tenancies

Yet you say he "hasn't passed any major legislation".

(Dictatorial tendencies) On example might be his refusal to hold regular press conferences. Another might be the White House holding press briefings without permitting cameras. Yet another might be his constant attacks on the free press, characterizing it as fake news (and yet ascribing to far right/alt right/conspiracy theorist publications from Fox, Breibart, and InfoWars). Another still might be his attempting to influence privates businesses to fire employees who are protesting while at work (i.e. putting pressure on private business to dismiss employees doing something he does not agree with).

You like to use the term “dictatorial tendencies”… I do not think you know what it means.

Also, aren’t you supposed to be arguing in favour of Free Speech??

(UMMMM President Trump is entitled to Free Speech)

You obviously did not google what I suggested….

Mondi wrote:
Another might be putting family members into high level government jobs, for which they are not qualified--that's a good one

How qualified were Rahm Emanuel, George Stephanopoulos, and Dee Dee Myers?

All three were in there early 30s when President Clinton put them in office.

Did President Clinton have dictatorial tendencies?

Working with family members helps greatly in the trust and communication departments.

I mean it’s not like billionaires Jared/Ivanka needed the work.

(btw fyi billionaires tend to be competent people.)

Anyhoo, you have clearly been brainwashed into thinking this is something new:

http://fortune.com/2017/04/26/donald-tr ... ite-house/

Donald Trump is far from the first president to enlist his children and in-laws in the work of the White House. Look back through history, and it turns out that plenty of presidencies have been a family affair.

Eighteen sons served in their fathers' White Houses, most of them with the title of "secretary to the president," … Fourteen daughters or daughters-in-law have taken on responsibilities in the White House

(or are you saying most US Presidents have dictatorial tendencies lol)

Mondi wrote:

Strangelove wrote:

Mondi wrote: , along with a VERY tenuous grasp of the concept of free speech.

How so?

Google this: "trump is right" nfl "First Amendment"

Free speech, the ability to protest, the right to freedom of assembly...and other such rights and freedoms are rights individuals have vis-a-vis the government. Trump appears to lash out at many protesters with whom he does not agree, accusing them of disrespecting the flag or the country.

Google this: "trump is right" nfl "first amendment"

When folks engage in political protest while on the job, their employer has the right to fire them.

Also, on the job or not, when protesters engage in violence, they deserve to be arrested.

(you’re being a little vague here so I’m trying to cover all bases)

And again, President Trump is entitled to Free Speech.

But you don’t understand the concept of Free Speech.

Mondi wrote:
After all, he tweeted that burning the flag should result in jail or revocation of citizenship--which does not accord with a judgment of the US Supreme Court on freedom of speech.

You’re really reaching to try to pin an anti-free-speech lable on The Donald here.

A large number of Americans have agreed with The Don on this for most of US history.

In fact it was illegal to burn the flag for over 20 years:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_Protection_Act

And since that time there have been 16 attempts to again make it illegal:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_desecration

So if Donald Trump is anti-Free Speech because of his position on this matter

… so too are about 100 million Americans.

Once more I will point out the irony of a guy (YOU) arguing... for... Free Speech

… while complaining about a man (POTUS) using Free Speech to give an opinion.

"Oh no, he's using his right to free speech to weigh in on the long-standing flag desecration controversy

... what a dictator!!"

Mondi wrote: He also proposed to change libel laws to go after the press...

Yes, as he said, when they “write purposely negative and horrible and false articles”.

As it should be, no?

(libel/slander is an exception to Free Speech)

Mondi wrote: Anyhow, it might just be me, but I would hope that anyone who supports democracy, freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom of assembly, equality under the law...essentially all the things that go hand and hand with Western democracies would not support a POTUS who seems either not to not understand or not to support (or both) many of these critical tenets underpinning the United States and Canada.

Nice conclusion, you have proven nothing but your own failure to understand.

You don’t understand President Trump’s personal right to Free Speech.

You don’t understand President Trump has not violated anyone’s Free Speech.

You don’t understand that Free Speech cannot necessarily be expressed at the workplace.

You don’t understand that violence and destruction of property are not Free Speech.

You don’t understand that Libel/Slander are exceptions to Free Speech.

(as are Obscenity, Fighting Words, Causing Panic, Incitement to Crime, and Sedition)

You don’t understand what a “dictator” is… or isn’t.

You show that you don’t fully understand “democracy”

(when you state an elected President "should not be supported”)

And “equality under the law” = WTF

1st amendment is about the government passing laws that infringe on free speech not about employment contracts.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Strangelove wrote:http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/09/ ... again.html

NFL anthem controversy: Does the left ever want to win elections again?

Yada yada, removing monuments of our founders, yada yada, glorifying property-destroying (and journalist-punching) thugs ... yada yada...

1) I thought they wanted to remove statues of traitors who fought against the US government.

2) Wait, weren't they talking about leftists?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/13/us/p ... enced.html

If republicans are now considered leftists... well, yeah, I guess from Bannon's perspective, but still...