Re: Vancouver's Hockey "Media" (or "Idiots" as Torts calls them)

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: #Canucks must push for compensatory picks for Toffoli trade if season doesn't return; not unthinkable that league revenues drop to a point where salary cap could be substantially cut down the road
Seravalli: Will Canucks be in line for compensatory picks for Toffoli trade if season doesn't return
Frank Seravalli suggests it's not unthinkable that NHL revenue drops massively, which could lead to a much, much lower salary cap. Frank also says the league has it on the list of things to discuss,...
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7:38 AM · Apr 16, 2020·

Salary Cap will not be "much, much lower"... Seravalli lol.

I mean, think about it.

Salary cap drops to $60M for 2020-21.

Things go back to normal and the salary cap SPRONG jumps to $85M the following season.

Can you see how damaging that would be?

The NHL doesn't have to let the Cap drop, so why would they?

Whatever that artificial number is, they still get 50% of revenues.

If playoffs are cancelled this year

... it only means they need to negotiate how the players are going to pay back some of their 2019-20 salaries.

Meanwhile the cap gets set for the next season based upon revenue projections, if C19 is under control, the 2020-21 projection

... should be about what?

Ummmm that will take some doing. I'm sure it would be an infuriating negotiation to follow. Billionaires suing millionaires to get back cash that could support the average Joe for 20 years. LOL.

[Strangelove]

Ummmm that will take some doing. I'm sure it would be an infuriating negotiation to follow. Billionaires suing millionaires to get back cash that could support the average Joe for 20 years. LOL.

No need for lawsuits, it's in the CBA, players only get 50% of revenues.

the money would be auto-deleted from them the following season

... or they could agree to something else.

[Meds]

Ummmm that will take some doing. I'm sure it would be an infuriating negotiation to follow. Billionaires suing millionaires to get back cash that could support the average Joe for 20 years. LOL.

No need for lawsuits, it's in the CBA, players only get 50% of revenues.

the money would be auto-deleted from them the following season

... or they could agree to something else.

The latter. I just can't see players under current legally binding contracts being fine with reducing their AAV for a season.

And what about the players who just finished up their current deals? Obviously if the cap falls they'll have to accept less money, but the owners can't really get that back can they? Or does an increased amount going into escrow work that way?

Will we see this summer's UFA crop accepting short term deals because the cap will likely bounce back up again in 2 years?

Interesting times no doubt.

[Strangelove]

Ummmm that will take some doing. I'm sure it would be an infuriating negotiation to follow. Billionaires suing millionaires to get back cash that could support the average Joe for 20 years. LOL.

No need for lawsuits, it's in the CBA, players only get 50% of revenues.

the money would be auto-deleted from them the following season

... or they could agree to something else.

The latter. I just can't see players under current legally binding contracts being fine with reducing their AAV for a season.

it is "legally binding" that they have to pay back anything over 50% of revenues in a given season.

And what about the players who just finished up their current deals? Obviously if the cap falls they'll have to accept less money, but the owners can't really get that back can they? Or does an increased amount going into escrow work that way?

If more money needs to be paid back than what is held in escrow

... it comes out of the player's share the following season.

Players on expiring contracts would be freed from that as far as I understand it.

Will we see this summer's UFA crop accepting short term deals because the cap will likely bounce back up again in 2 years?

Interesting times no doubt.

I've seen it speculated that players signing contracts this summer might prefer them back-loaded.

Yeah, not boring in that regard.

[Chef Boi RD]

Any subscribers to the Athletic? Apparently they’ve graded Bennings work to date in which ya just know will NOT be glowing. This is home to douche bag whipper snappers like JD Burke. The HF Gillis Bros love the Athletic

[Richardstroker69]

Any subscribers to the Athletic? Apparently they’ve graded Bennings work to date in which ya just know will NOT be glowing. This is home to douche bag whipper snappers like JD Burke. The HF Gillis Bros love the Athletic

I read it, harman Dayal wrote it and under sold how horrible the prospect pool was, talked about how great the assets Benning inherited in the old core was. He then went on to complain about the placeholder players benning had to acquire to ice an nhl team while they sucked for 3 years during the rebuild, bitched about the salary cap (as if benning won’t do anything about it this offseason). All in all pretty shitty article, made comparisons to Edmonton and buffalo, but I want to see how we compare to Detroit and the Rangers, lets see them do what we did in 3 seasons.

[ESQ]

If more money needs to be paid back than what is held in escrow

... it comes out of the player's share the following season.

Players on expiring contracts would be freed from that as far as I understand it.

I read that the players didn't receive their final paycheques of the season, to give a boost to escrow, beyond what's been deducted from their paycheques for escrow. Is that right?

If so , that would put escrow at ~ 17% (I think? Escrow was 9.5%, plus one paycheque out of 12 (?) for the year is 8.3%). If the playoffs proceed on TV only, that may be enough to cover lost revenue on the season. If everything is cancelled, its probably a massive difference to make up next year.

[Strangelove]

Any subscribers to the Athletic? Apparently they’ve graded Bennings work to date in which ya just know will NOT be glowing. This is home to douche bag whipper snappers like JD Burke. The HF Gillis Bros love the Athletic

People pay to read Bola Boy??

Talk about a vicious cycle!

You're stupid so you read Bola Boy.

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[Strangelove]

If more money needs to be paid back than what is held in escrow

... it comes out of the player's share the following season.

Players on expiring contracts would be freed from that as far as I understand it.

I read that the players didn't receive their final paycheques of the season, to give a boost to escrow, beyond what's been deducted from their paycheques for escrow. Is that right?

If so , that would put escrow at ~ 17% (I think? Escrow was 9.5%, plus one paycheque out of 12 (?) for the year is 8.3%). If the playoffs proceed on TV only, that may be enough to cover lost revenue on the season. If everything is cancelled, its probably a massive difference to make up next year.

Yeah, if the NHL loses all that playoff revenue the players may be looking at something like a 40/60 split the next season.

(rather than the usual 50/50)

[Cousin Strawberry]

Any subscribers to the Athletic? Apparently they’ve graded Bennings work to date in which ya just know will NOT be glowing. This is home to douche bag whipper snappers like JD Burke. The HF Gillis Bros love the Athletic

People pay to read Bola Boy??

Talk about a vicious cycle!

You're stupid so you read Bola Boy.

After reading Bola Boy you're much stupider for having done so.

So now you're stupid enough to actually pay when they charge you to read Bola Boy.

You pay for and read more of Bola Boy.

Now YOU are wearing bola ties and are clearly stupider than ever.

Pay more, read more, stupider, pay more, read more, stupider, etc.

Next thing you know you're biting boners on that other site...

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[Chef Boi RD]

Harman Dayal LMAO Oh ya he knows his shit. Is he still in Highschool? Have you seen this kid? LMAO! Holy fuck, is this what people pay to read now? Holy fuck. How do you paste photos over to here. You’ll be stunned to see Harman Dayal

[Chef Boi RD]

Any subscribers to the Athletic? Apparently they’ve graded Bennings work to date in which ya just know will NOT be glowing. This is home to douche bag whipper snappers like JD Burke. The HF Gillis Bros love the Athletic

I read it, harman Dayal wrote it and under sold how horrible the prospect pool was, talked about how great the assets Benning inherited in the old core was. He then went on to complain about the placeholder players benning had to acquire to ice an nhl team while they sucked for 3 years during the rebuild, bitched about the salary cap (as if benning won’t do anything about it this offseason). All in all pretty shitty article, made comparisons to Edmonton and buffalo, but I want to see how we compare to Detroit and the Rangers, lets see them do what we did in 3 seasons.

The Sabres sucked this year! They are on the verge of their 7th lottery pick in the last 8 drafts all top 8 picks. Two are first overall one a 2nd overall.

[Blob Mckenzie]

He then went on to complain about the placeholder players benning had to acquire to ice an nhl team while they sucked for 3 years during the rebuild, bitched about the salary cap

This is a legitimate bitch. He didn’t ‘have to acquire’ these specific guys. Most of the players Elmer acquired for Jared McCann, three 2nds , a 3rd, a 4th, a 5th and a 6th are gone and were garbage here. They have one more year of Tanner Pearson to show for that.

Scrubs like Vey, Baertschi, Etem, Pedan and Gudbranson are available on waivers or UFA all the time if this age gap was such a concern. It wasn’t very good asset management.

I didn’t read the article but even the most ardent Benning supporters must admit that those weren’t assets well spent.

[Megaterio Llamas]

Any subscribers to the Athletic? Apparently they’ve graded Bennings work to date in which ya just know will NOT be glowing. This is home to douche bag whipper snappers like JD Burke. The HF Gillis Bros love the Athletic

People pay to read Bola Boy??

Talk about a vicious cycle!

You're stupid so you read Bola Boy.

After reading Bola Boy you're much stupider for having done so.

So now you're stupid enough to actually pay when they charge you to read Bola Boy.

You pay for and read more of Bola Boy.

Now YOU are wearing bola ties and are clearly stupider than ever.

Pay more, read more, stupider, pay more, read more, stupider, etc.

Next thing you know you're biting boners on that other site...

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The string tie messiah LOLOL.

Young JD is just a boy you know. I heard him arguing on some podcast a while back that Alex Mogilny was a center because some publication said he was a center. Never mind that he never played center in his life. These kids have almost zero direct hockey knowledge. They get everything from stuff they read, and from other members of their echo chamber.

[Chef Boi RD]

He then went on to complain about the placeholder players benning had to acquire to ice an nhl team while they sucked for 3 years during the rebuild, bitched about the salary cap

This is a legitimate bitch. He didn’t ‘have to acquire’ these specific guys. Most of the players Elmer acquired for Jared McCann, three 2nds , a 3rd, a 4th, a 5th and a 6th are gone and were garbage here. They have one more year of Tanner Pearson to show for that.

Scrubs like Vey, Baertschi, Etem, Pedan and Gudbranson are available on waivers or UFA all the time if this age gap was such a concern. It wasn’t very good asset management.

I didn’t read the article but even the most ardent Benning supporters must admit that those weren’t assets well spent.

Shaddap Vincenzo Skully. You and Harman are lovers!