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Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 9:56 am
by rikster
Mëds wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 9:17 am Considering the way they shuttered all information out of Wuhan, I highly doubt it would have made a difference.

Considering the decisions that our Canadian government made regarding travel restrictions, it would not have made a difference here. Trudeau refused to shut the door on Chinese travel because it would be discriminatory.

You can have every conceivable program in place to mitigate something like this, but as soon as politicians get involved those programs mean absolutely nothing.
Agree, especially when you have a President upset that Covid positive passengers on a cruise ship off the shores of California would be allowed to dock and increase the countries Covid count...

The irony is that the Obama transition team played a mock pandemic arriving in America from the eastern shores which as it turns out was pretty much what happened....

I say Russian roulette because governments are banking on the event not happening on their watch and use the $ towards other programs...

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/oba ... ls-confirm

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 10:23 am
by Megaterio Llamas

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 2:58 pm
by Topper
Liberals have replaced Paul Chiang with another retired police officer. New guy is a director of the Chinese Language school that was bussing students to Han Dong's nomination election.

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 5:56 pm
by Topper
Paul Chiang's replacement. Beijing, we have a problem.

https://x.com/ryangerritsen/status/1909039461956001883

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2025 6:59 pm
by Megaterio Llamas
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Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2025 10:50 pm
by Meds
Can't tell who is pulling Ottawa's strings at all now can you.....

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 2:42 am
by 2Fingers
Megaterio Llamas wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 6:59 pm Image
EU has announced reciprocal tariffs as well. Canadas tariffs seems selective and not across everything if I understand correctly.

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:38 am
by Megaterio Llamas
2Fingers wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 2:42 am
Megaterio Llamas wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 6:59 pm
EU has announced reciprocal tariffs as well. Canadas tariffs seems selective and not across everything if I understand correctly.
I'm now hearing that the EU is eager to negotiate.

I don't think it matters, though Reef. I expect Trump to leave his tariffs in place.

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:12 am
by 2Fingers
Agreed, and I don't believe Canada using the same tactics is the right move but it is election time and Canadians think that raising costs of vehicles made in USA is a good thing.

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:54 am
by rikster
The Peterson Institute for International Economics estimated that American consumers pay about $57 billion more each year due to the 2018 tariffs on $250 Billion of Chinese goods, can't imagine what the hit will be to the cost of living because of this trade war....

Another interesting stat is that since the founding of the World Trade Organization 30 years ago, global trade has gone from $5 Trillion to $33 Trillion dollars with the US importing 13% of global goods...

The IMD Business School predicts that if the US cut off all of its imports and manufactured everything it consumes at home, 70 of its trading partners would make up the lost sales within 1 year and 115 would do so within 5 years...
The UK's Financial Times even bluntly stated that the importance of the US to global trade can be overstated. If the US positions itself against the majority of countries that uphold free trade and maintain a multilateral trading system, the ultimate outcome will not be "economic de-globalization," but rather the "de-Americanization of the world."
I'd love to see a breakdown on the risk/rewards of dealing with China and the US going forward... articles like this one make you wonder if one is any better than the other and if the economic benefit should be the deciding factor?...

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/sp ... ropaganda/

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:56 am
by rikster
Megaterio Llamas wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:38 am
2Fingers wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 2:42 am
Megaterio Llamas wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 6:59 pm
EU has announced reciprocal tariffs as well. Canadas tariffs seems selective and not across everything if I understand correctly.
I'm now hearing that the EU is eager to negotiate.

I don't think it matters, though Reef. I expect Trump to leave his tariffs in place.
The EU has announced retalitory tariffs will begin next week...

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:09 am
by Megaterio Llamas
rikster wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:56 am
Megaterio Llamas wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:38 am
2Fingers wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 2:42 am
Megaterio Llamas wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 6:59 pm
EU has announced reciprocal tariffs as well. Canadas tariffs seems selective and not across everything if I understand correctly.
I'm now hearing that the EU is eager to negotiate.

I don't think it matters, though Reef. I expect Trump to leave his tariffs in place.
The EU has announced retalitory tariffs will begin next week...
I read the other day that Ursula Von Der Leyen (I think) was offering a free trade agreement. Things move quickly.

As I mentioned to Reef, I expect Trump to stick with his crazy plan anyway.

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:11 am
by Megaterio Llamas
Jeffrey Sachs took the tariff policy apart on The Duran yesterday:


https://www.youtube.com/live/rjvAiLs_92 ... Uhp3r4zEEe

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:19 am
by Blob Mckenzie
Reef, Flipping the bird to Trump is always a good idea. Tit for tat. If the tariffs fuck a couple million people here, hopefully it fucks 3 million folks down there.

It amazes me how soft everyone has become in this country and how quick they are to grab their ankles. Not surprising the Stars and Bars crew bob up and down on the orange man's needledick, but average Canadians just cowering and turtling is surprising. Both grandpas fought in WW2, ditto for the (late) wife. Both Great Grandpas fought in WW1. One didn't come back. Not saying everyone should be a fighter but kneeling to this psychopath is buying into to what he wants.

Pushback is a neat thing. Or I guess we can just let the "bully" have his way.

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 4:21 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
Argay Ham wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 11:12 am
Cousin Strawberry wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 9:10 pm
Topper wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 9:04 pm Quesnel Lake is one of the deepest on the planet
Across Quesnel lake from that small hotel coming in from the Horsefly side is the Mitchell river and the most Griz I've ever seen in BC. They were thick in there
that it boy-o....

lean in to Quesnel... I love it.
Angry Ham is a quality poster