Just Not ready

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Re: Just Not ready

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Topper wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 9:41 am No one should pay for the inept policing of the protest.

You are strong on the donor's.

Don't forget, the enactment of the Emergencies Any has been found to be illegal.

Just as C-69 had been found unconstitutional but Carney stands by it as staunchly as he stands by foreign actors among his candidates.
No, I just don't agree that an illegal protest should be paid for by taxpayers...

I don't think a legal protest should be paid for by taxpayers, especially those where the vast majority of Canadians disagree with the protesters...
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JelloPuddingPop wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 8:35 am
Tciso wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 8:30 am He is the Schrödinger's Cat of economics.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

That's my favorite kind of economics!
THe kind that evry time you look, it changes? :D
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rikster wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 10:39 am
Topper wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 9:41 am No one should pay for the inept policing of the protest.

You are strong on the donor's.

Don't forget, the enactment of the Emergencies Any has been found to be illegal.

Just as C-69 had been found unconstitutional but Carney stands by it as staunchly as he stands by foreign actors among his candidates.
No, I just don't agree that an illegal protest should be paid for by taxpayers...

I don't think a legal protest should be paid for by taxpayers, especially those where the vast majority of Canadians disagree with the protesters...
I agree with ya Rikster. Protesting is a protected right. But that does not mean that we as taxpayers should be paying for the clean-up of those messes. Regarding the police, the policing of protests is already covered by regular police budgets, and you can't ask/force protesters to pay for that service (but that is a sub-topic). We should expect the police to enforce the law though. But, they don't do that properly with most protests.
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Tciso wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 12:11 pm
rikster wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 10:39 am
Topper wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 9:41 am No one should pay for the inept policing of the protest.

You are strong on the donor's.

Don't forget, the enactment of the Emergencies Any has been found to be illegal.

Just as C-69 had been found unconstitutional but Carney stands by it as staunchly as he stands by foreign actors among his candidates.
No, I just don't agree that an illegal protest should be paid for by taxpayers...

I don't think a legal protest should be paid for by taxpayers, especially those where the vast majority of Canadians disagree with the protesters...
I agree with ya Rikster. Protesting is a protected right. But that does not mean that we as taxpayers should be paying for the clean-up of those messes. Regarding the police, the policing of protests is already covered by regular police budgets, and you can't ask/force protesters to pay for that service (but that is a sub-topic). We should expect the police to enforce the law though. But, they don't do that properly with most protests.
Depending upon the protest, I’d say the clean up should come out of the pockets of the elected officials who have caused the need for said protest.

Vaccine mandates were an infringement upon personal sovereignty of one’s body. The language used to disguise the mandates as it being a choice would have made founders of our nations turnover in their graves. It was absolute coercion. In my opinion it would have been a cause that morally warranted the taking up of arms for those who did not want the vaccine.

There is nobody on this planet that I actually hate, under the definition of the word. However, had some of these people come to a tragic end I would not have shed a tear.

The vaccine “mandates” were, and are, the very definition of evil.
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Asked about his book "Values" where he says using offshore tax havens is unethical and governments need to stop it, how does he reconcile that with his actions at Brookfield and how is he going to reconcile that in government?

Ummmm, ahhhhhhh, ummmmmm, we're here today to increase funding for the CBC.

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CARNEY'S CBC PROMISE: Broadcaster will get a raise and be entrenched in law

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Re: Just Not ready

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Mëds wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 1:22 pm
Tciso wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 12:11 pm
rikster wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 10:39 am
Topper wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 9:41 am No one should pay for the inept policing of the protest.

You are strong on the donor's.

Don't forget, the enactment of the Emergencies Any has been found to be illegal.

Just as C-69 had been found unconstitutional but Carney stands by it as staunchly as he stands by foreign actors among his candidates.
No, I just don't agree that an illegal protest should be paid for by taxpayers...

I don't think a legal protest should be paid for by taxpayers, especially those where the vast majority of Canadians disagree with the protesters...
I agree with ya Rikster. Protesting is a protected right. But that does not mean that we as taxpayers should be paying for the clean-up of those messes. Regarding the police, the policing of protests is already covered by regular police budgets, and you can't ask/force protesters to pay for that service (but that is a sub-topic). We should expect the police to enforce the law though. But, they don't do that properly with most protests.
Depending upon the protest, I’d say the clean up should come out of the pockets of the elected officials who have caused the need for said protest.

Vaccine mandates were an infringement upon personal sovereignty of one’s body. The language used to disguise the mandates as it being a choice would have made founders of our nations turnover in their graves. It was absolute coercion. In my opinion it would have been a cause that morally warranted the taking up of arms for those who did not want the vaccine.

There is nobody on this planet that I actually hate, under the definition of the word. However, had some of these people come to a tragic end I would not have shed a tear.

The vaccine “mandates” were, and are, the very definition of evil.
That is your opinion, when the whole world was trying to grasp what was going on they did the best they could. Promoting the killing of elected officials or other government employees seems extreme.
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Re: Just Not ready

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2Fingers wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 2:23 pm
Mëds wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 1:22 pm
Tciso wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 12:11 pm
rikster wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 10:39 am
Topper wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 9:41 am No one should pay for the inept policing of the protest.

You are strong on the donor's.

Don't forget, the enactment of the Emergencies Any has been found to be illegal.

Just as C-69 had been found unconstitutional but Carney stands by it as staunchly as he stands by foreign actors among his candidates.
No, I just don't agree that an illegal protest should be paid for by taxpayers...

I don't think a legal protest should be paid for by taxpayers, especially those where the vast majority of Canadians disagree with the protesters...
I agree with ya Rikster. Protesting is a protected right. But that does not mean that we as taxpayers should be paying for the clean-up of those messes. Regarding the police, the policing of protests is already covered by regular police budgets, and you can't ask/force protesters to pay for that service (but that is a sub-topic). We should expect the police to enforce the law though. But, they don't do that properly with most protests.
Depending upon the protest, I’d say the clean up should come out of the pockets of the elected officials who have caused the need for said protest.

Vaccine mandates were an infringement upon personal sovereignty of one’s body. The language used to disguise the mandates as it being a choice would have made founders of our nations turnover in their graves. It was absolute coercion. In my opinion it would have been a cause that morally warranted the taking up of arms for those who did not want the vaccine.

There is nobody on this planet that I actually hate, under the definition of the word. However, had some of these people come to a tragic end I would not have shed a tear.

The vaccine “mandates” were, and are, the very definition of evil.
That is your opinion, when the whole world was trying to grasp what was going on they did the best they could. Promoting the killing of elected officials or other government employees seems extreme.
Who promoted that?
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Mëds wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 1:22 pm
Vaccine mandates were an infringement upon personal sovereignty of one’s body. The language used to disguise the mandates as it being a choice would have made founders of our nations turnover in their graves. It was absolute coercion. In my opinion it would have been a cause that morally warranted the taking up of arms for those who did not want the vaccine.

There is nobody on this planet that I actually hate, under the definition of the word. However, had some of these people come to a tragic end I would not have shed a tear.

The vaccine “mandates” were, and are, the very definition of evil.
I am 100% in agreement. There was nothing scientific about the mandates, and nothing that resembled "humanity" in how it was carried out. Our "heroes", police, truckers, nurses, etc were held up on pedastals (which they deserved), and then they were fired for not getting a vaccine. They were not suspended with pay, or suspended without pay. They were fired. Fired with the hubris of moral superiority, and not the respect these individuals deserved as humans. I still cannot believe that the government has not been hit with a trillion dollar law suit for infringing on people's rights based on faulty science and vindictive political beliefs. If the mandates had targeted an identified minority, there would have been lawsuits. But, because it atttacked people randomly, based on beliefs, the Powers that Be walk away scot free. The mandates didn't even follow any form of logic or medical best/common practices. The masks did not work, even the home made ones (irony intended). The virus was not spread be "goblets" from moist speakers. They got so much wrong, and they knew it, yet they did not correct their mistakes. They just doubled down. They also knew the vaccine did not prevent infection or transmission (it did help with severity though), but they forced people to either drop out of society, or to prove their vaccine status. We went from a society that believed in privacy to one that forced people to declare their status (with proof!) and divided people based on that status. We decided that 18,000 unmasked people who could and did spread the virus were fine to gather for concerts, but, 2 unvaccinated people could be fined or jailed for hanging out together in a park. Stopping infected people from flying into the country would have been racist, but stopping un-infected people from having Christmas Dinner together was just good sense. Corner Stores were shuttered, but pot shops were deemed essencial services. The list of non-sensical decisions and mandates just never stopped

To top it all off, the Government has basically done somewhere between Fuck All and Nothing to prepare for the next crisis. We have not adressed our complete lack of moral compass as a nation under stress. What are our guiding principles for the next crisis? How do we decide what to do and when next time? We have also done nothing to protect the vulnerable in the past few years. No improvement in the HVAC of senior's homes. Nothing to improve sanitation. Hell, we don't even have any "blue lights" that destroy airborn viruses installed in our major public locations like hospitals and other medical facilities. That is how serious the government has taken Covid. They (not just Canada, but the WEF loving Western World) shit canned our personal freedoms and then did nothing to prepare for the next event. May th Gods help us if we actually had a dangerous viral outbreak across the world. The shit we did with Covid would have left us all dead if we had a highly contagious virus with a high mortality rate instead of a nasty flu that was hard on the old, weak, and immuno-compromised (like all other flus).
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Mëds wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 2:25 pm
2Fingers wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 2:23 pm
Mëds wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 1:22 pm
Tciso wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 12:11 pm
rikster wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 10:39 am
Topper wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 9:41 am No one should pay for the inept policing of the protest.

You are strong on the donor's.

Don't forget, the enactment of the Emergencies Any has been found to be illegal.

Just as C-69 had been found unconstitutional but Carney stands by it as staunchly as he stands by foreign actors among his candidates.
No, I just don't agree that an illegal protest should be paid for by taxpayers...

I don't think a legal protest should be paid for by taxpayers, especially those where the vast majority of Canadians disagree with the protesters...
I agree with ya Rikster. Protesting is a protected right. But that does not mean that we as taxpayers should be paying for the clean-up of those messes. Regarding the police, the policing of protests is already covered by regular police budgets, and you can't ask/force protesters to pay for that service (but that is a sub-topic). We should expect the police to enforce the law though. But, they don't do that properly with most protests.
Depending upon the protest, I’d say the clean up should come out of the pockets of the elected officials who have caused the need for said protest.

Vaccine mandates were an infringement upon personal sovereignty of one’s body. The language used to disguise the mandates as it being a choice would have made founders of our nations turnover in their graves. It was absolute coercion. In my opinion it would have been a cause that morally warranted the taking up of arms for those who did not want the vaccine.

There is nobody on this planet that I actually hate, under the definition of the word. However, had some of these people come to a tragic end I would not have shed a tear.

The vaccine “mandates” were, and are, the very definition of evil.
That is your opinion, when the whole world was trying to grasp what was going on they did the best they could. Promoting the killing of elected officials or other government employees seems extreme.
Who promoted that?
However, had some of these people come to a tragic end I would not have shed a tear.
Maybe I miss interpreted what you mean by this?
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2Fingers wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 2:23 pm
Mëds wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 1:22 pm
The vaccine “mandates” were, and are, the very definition of evil.
That is your opinion, when the whole world was trying to grasp what was going on they did the best they could.
ROTFLMAO. "they" did very little to grasp what was going on. Hell, we were not even allowed to discuss where or how the virus got started. "they" did use it as an opportunity to put in a shit pile of restrictions that "they" knew didn't do anything useful. Many of the "they" mainly used it as an opportunity to push their "new world order" agenda, so if that is what you mean by "best they could", then you are correct.
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2Fingers wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 2:28 pm
Mëds wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 2:25 pm
2Fingers wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 2:23 pm
Mëds wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 1:22 pm
Tciso wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 12:11 pm
rikster wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 10:39 am
Topper wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 9:41 am No one should pay for the inept policing of the protest.

You are strong on the donor's.

Don't forget, the enactment of the Emergencies Any has been found to be illegal.

Just as C-69 had been found unconstitutional but Carney stands by it as staunchly as he stands by foreign actors among his candidates.
No, I just don't agree that an illegal protest should be paid for by taxpayers...

I don't think a legal protest should be paid for by taxpayers, especially those where the vast majority of Canadians disagree with the protesters...
I agree with ya Rikster. Protesting is a protected right. But that does not mean that we as taxpayers should be paying for the clean-up of those messes. Regarding the police, the policing of protests is already covered by regular police budgets, and you can't ask/force protesters to pay for that service (but that is a sub-topic). We should expect the police to enforce the law though. But, they don't do that properly with most protests.
Depending upon the protest, I’d say the clean up should come out of the pockets of the elected officials who have caused the need for said protest.

Vaccine mandates were an infringement upon personal sovereignty of one’s body. The language used to disguise the mandates as it being a choice would have made founders of our nations turnover in their graves. It was absolute coercion. In my opinion it would have been a cause that morally warranted the taking up of arms for those who did not want the vaccine.

There is nobody on this planet that I actually hate, under the definition of the word. However, had some of these people come to a tragic end I would not have shed a tear.

The vaccine “mandates” were, and are, the very definition of evil.
That is your opinion, when the whole world was trying to grasp what was going on they did the best they could. Promoting the killing of elected officials or other government employees seems extreme.
Who promoted that?
However, had some of these people come to a tragic end I would not have shed a tear.
Maybe I miss interpreted what you mean by this?
Yes.
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Tciso wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 2:35 pm
2Fingers wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 2:23 pm
Mëds wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 1:22 pm
The vaccine “mandates” were, and are, the very definition of evil.
That is your opinion, when the whole world was trying to grasp what was going on they did the best they could.
ROTFLMAO. "they" did very little to grasp what was going on. Hell, we were not even allowed to discuss where or how the virus got started. "they" did use it as an opportunity to put in a shit pile of restrictions that "they" knew didn't do anything useful. Many of the "they" mainly used it as an opportunity to push their "new world order" agenda, so if that is what you mean by "best they could", then you are correct.
Says you, are you a medical professional with years of experience or just parroting what you read in the media? You don’t think the vaccines helped reduce the impact on how health services?

If you were in charge what would you have done?

Always easy for others to comment when they were not the ones having to make a decision.
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2Fingers wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 2:56 pm
Tciso wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 2:35 pm
2Fingers wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 2:23 pm
Mëds wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 1:22 pm
The vaccine “mandates” were, and are, the very definition of evil.
That is your opinion, when the whole world was trying to grasp what was going on they did the best they could.
ROTFLMAO. "they" did very little to grasp what was going on. Hell, we were not even allowed to discuss where or how the virus got started. "they" did use it as an opportunity to put in a shit pile of restrictions that "they" knew didn't do anything useful. Many of the "they" mainly used it as an opportunity to push their "new world order" agenda, so if that is what you mean by "best they could", then you are correct.
Says you, are you a medical professional with years of experience or just parroting what you read in the media? You don’t think the vaccines helped reduce the impact on how health services?

If you were in charge what would you have done?

Always easy for others to comment when they were not the ones having to make a decision.
Hi. Medical professional here. Nothing Tciso said was wrong.
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Why does he lie when it is so easily verified?

2009 - we are in a recession

2025 - in 2009, when I was leading the Bank of Canada, we avoided recession

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