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damonberryman wrote:Today a Fed Judge overturned the ban and this is what is going to keep happening to his ideas.
No, a judge in idealistically democratic Seattle gave a temporary injunction to the ban while he decides to rule on it it infringes State rights.
A judge appointed by George W Bush and confirrmed by a republican majority senate.
Trump has had the justice department appeal to overturn the decision and reinstate the travel ban, as per his executive order, but were denied this by an apellate court.
Per wrote:
First they backed off from the green card holders and residents, which was my main complaint. And today, after fielding harsh criticism from eg Trudeau and May, they have back paddled about dual citizenship holders as well.
With these adjustment the EO should be within what Trump has the right to do. I mean, it's still evil and stupid, and damaging for US companies as well as endangering US citizens by serving as an ISIS recruitment tool, but afaict it is no longer illegal.
Per wrote:
First they backed off from the green card holders and residents, which was my main complaint. And today, after fielding harsh criticism from eg Trudeau and May, they have back paddled about dual citizenship holders as well.
With these adjustment the EO should be within what Trump has the right to do. I mean, it's still evil and stupid, and damaging for US companies as well as endangering US citizens by serving as an ISIS recruitment tool, but afaict it is no longer illegal.
Fake news?
Well, I obviously was too easily convinced by the argument's from Trump and his apologists (albeit I did include an afaict qualifyer)
The courts seem less easily swayed, so maybe even with the conceccions by Trump et al, it is still not constitutionally OK.
Pretty sure that the Seattle judge had all the information that homeland security and the other departments had at their fingertips or he wouldn't have done this.... no?
I am he as you are he as you are me
And we are all together….
Island Nucklehead wrote:Well that didn't take long... Flynn resigns.
Yup. Lying about what he told the Russian ambassador.
Didn't realize the FBI were listening in.
You know, it's gotten so bad, several European intelligence organisations are hesitant to share information with the US, because they fear information that reaches the White House also finds it way to the Kremlin...
Getting rid of Flynn is a start, but the whole Trump campaign was filled with people with close ties to Russia.
GEORGE W. BUSH looked into Vladimir Putin’s eyes and thought he saw his soul. He was wrong. Barack Obama attempted to “reset” relations with Russia, but by the end of his term in office Russia had annexed Crimea, stirred up conflict elsewhere in Ukraine and filled the power vacuum that Mr Obama had left in Syria. Donald Trump appears to want to go much further and forge an entirely new strategic alignment with Russia. Can he succeed, or will he be the third American president in a row to be outfoxed by Mr Putin?
The details of Mr Trump’s realignment are still vague and changeable. That is partly because of disagreements in his inner circle. Even as his ambassador to the UN offered “clear and strong condemnation” of “Russia’s aggressive actions” in Ukraine, the president’s bromance with Mr Putin was still smouldering. When an interviewer on Fox News put it to Mr Trump this week that Mr Putin is “a killer”, he retorted: “There are a lot of killers. What, you think our country’s so innocent?”
For an American president to suggest that his own country is as murderous as Russia is unprecedented, wrong and a gift to Moscow’s propagandists. And for Mr Trump to think that Mr Putin has much to offer America is a miscalculation not just of Russian power and interests, but also of the value of what America might have to give up in return.