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BigTuna wrote: BTW do you have the same criteria for all of the Western Canadians who crap on Toronto but have never been to the city? Because I know you are aware that happens all the time.

Has your guy who rated cities been there?

I had to stay in Toronto for a week once.

Twas 7 days too long.

I found out first-hand why folks refer to it as "Pig Town".

Twould be a nice place... if not for all the Torontonians.

Any+everyone who having been there still says nice things about it

... need to get there internal cuntmeters checked IMESHO.

Geez guys, give it a rest already...

For what its worth, I wouldn't live in either city but also understand that as compared to other major cities around the world both Toronto and Vancouver are highly rated...

So what?

Regarding the prospect pools, I don't think any organization that has been as bad as Toronto has been over the past 10 years has any right to boast about its cupboards...

Feel the same way with the Oilers and the Flames...

Their cupboards should be stocked fuller than teams which have had more success over the last decade...

I do wonder what Leaf fans think of the job their coach has done and if they think the team is getting its monies worth?

A 30th place finish for the highest paid coach in the league? With the World Cup win Babcock has shown once again that he can win with rosters that are considered the best in the tournaments but he doesn't do so well when given a mediocre roster to work with....

Overated?

Take care...

BigTuna wrote:

mr perfect wrote:BT, do you travel outside the GTA at all? Where in Canada have you visited? I assume you've been to Ottawa and Montreal because they're within a day's drive from your home. Have you been to Calgary, Edmonton or Vancouver? If so when, and for what purpose? Have you been to Atlantic Canada at all? St. John's Newfoundland? Do you travel to Europe? Been to any major cities in the USA? I'm curious about your experiences outside of the GTA because I'm attempting to understand how you reach the conclusions you post here.

So I say Toronto is an incredibly clean and safe city and you think that's incorrect? Have you ever travelled around?
What's so hard to comprehend here? The world agrees it's a clean, safe city. You think most US cities are as safe?
Let me guess: you believe I''ve never left the GTA, right? I'm in my 40's and have travelled a lot. I lived in Australia for a year. My last vacation I was in Paris then visited the South of France and Italy/Monaco.
BTW do you have the same criteria for all of the Western Canadians who crap on Toronto but have never been to the city? Because I know you are aware that happens all the time.

I'm trying to determine your personal experience and how much of it you have of city/places outside your city. It seems to be a very touchy subject with you. Did I say American cities are safer than TO? No, that would be foolish because I walked by a homeless person shoving a pistol down the front of his sweat pants at 2:00 PM on a Wednesday in Hollywood not far from Amoeba Records. But I could still see myself living in LA, we have friends who do.

What's your experiences with Canadian cities?

mr perfect wrote:

BigTuna wrote:

mr perfect wrote:BT, do you travel outside the GTA at all? Where in Canada have you visited? I assume you've been to Ottawa and Montreal because they're within a day's drive from your home. Have you been to Calgary, Edmonton or Vancouver? If so when, and for what purpose? Have you been to Atlantic Canada at all? St. John's Newfoundland? Do you travel to Europe? Been to any major cities in the USA? I'm curious about your experiences outside of the GTA because I'm attempting to understand how you reach the conclusions you post here.

So I say Toronto is an incredibly clean and safe city and you think that's incorrect? Have you ever travelled around?
What's so hard to comprehend here? The world agrees it's a clean, safe city. You think most US cities are as safe?
Let me guess: you believe I''ve never left the GTA, right? I'm in my 40's and have travelled a lot. I lived in Australia for a year. My last vacation I was in Paris then visited the South of France and Italy/Monaco.
BTW do you have the same criteria for all of the Western Canadians who crap on Toronto but have never been to the city? Because I know you are aware that happens all the time.

I'm trying to determine your personal experience and how much of it you have of city/places outside your city. It seems to be a very touchy subject with you. Did I say American cities are safer than TO? No, that would be foolish because I walked by a homeless person shoving a pistol down the front of his sweat pants at 2:00 PM on a Wednesday in Hollywood not far from Amoeba Records. But I could still see myself living in LA, we have friends who do.

What's your experiences with Canadian cities?

Montreal is by far the most overrated city. Crumbling infrastructure and horrible economy and living off it's reputation from decades ago. You know how people say it's so exciting? It's bars and strip clubs. That's it. Overall much more to do in Toronto. The political mess has killed the city.
I like Ottawa a lot. Small city, but a nice feel to it. Calgary is ok. Hate Winnipeg. It's Buffalo North. Vancouver is really nice, but I think the province of B.C has so many beautiful towns, they get overshadowed.
Toronto is fantastic. And great subburbs to live in(Oakville and Burlington are great).
LOVE PEI in the summer. The place to be.

rikster wrote:Geez guys, give it a rest already...

For what its worth, I wouldn't live in either city but also understand that as compared to other major cities around the world both Toronto and Vancouver are highly rated...

So what?

Regarding the prospect pools, I don't think any organization that has been as bad as Toronto has been over the past 10 years has any right to boast about its cupboards...

Feel the same way with the Oilers and the Flames...

Their cupboards should be stocked fuller than teams which have had more success over the last decade...

I do wonder what Leaf fans think of the job their coach has done and if they think the team is getting its monies worth?

A 30th place finish for the highest paid coach in the league? With the World Cup win Babcock has shown once again that he can win with rosters that are considered the best in the tournaments but he doesn't do so well when given a mediocre roster to work with....

Overated?

Take care...

With that roster, do you honestly think they should have finished higher? They actually did have 15 points more than 30th place Buffalo in 2014'-15'. And little known fact, the leaves were improved under Babcock in 2015-16' despite the much worse roster.(more points, much better possession numbers, better goal dif.)
If you're going to hold the talent against Babcock, then why call Scotty Bowman best coach ever when he won all those cups with all-star teams? And what was Canada's excuse in the 98' and 2006' Olympics?
In the end, who cares? Babcock's salary does not count against the cap. As if I'm supposed to care about ownership's money? They've made a billion off of Leaf fans.
Bottom line" Babcock has 2 gold medals a world cup, 1 Stanley cup and 3 finals appearances including the 03' Ducks who had no business making the playoffs, let alone getting to within 1 win of winning the cup.
Overrated? I think not. Let's see him with some talent on the leaves which starts this year.

BigTuna wrote:Classic back-tracking. I gave you what you asked. You are so out of it you thought I would never produce it.Now you're making odd claims about the sources.

You didn't give me what I asked. I asked for sources to back your asinine assertion that Toronto was routinely a 'top city'.

Again, let's refer you to the definition of 'top': http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/top :
a (1) : the highest position (as in rank or achievement)

In only one instance did you provide a source which backed up only one part of your assertion - thus making your assertion as asinine and flawed as your cesspool of a municipality. It was only once a 'top' city, which is the diametric opposite of 'routinely'. If you still need help, one of my wife's pre-school kids can give you a hand. They only charge fish crackers.

BigTuna wrote:You told me no sources existed!

Let's refer you to what I actually said:

Lancer wrote:Sources, or I call bullshit.

Nowhere did I say no sources existed. I just said your citation and sources are as shitty as the quagmire you defend. So you resort to fictions to back up your argument - which is understandable considering how self-deluded one has to be to want to live there.

BigTuna wrote:How are those bad sources? One of them was touted in Vancouver a lot. What high school students would not include those legitimate sources? From a special school I guess.

Because corporate-sponsored 'studies' by media 'intelligence units' (what a crock of a title) are SOOOO reliable. That's like the Wall Street Journal commissioning a study of best places to live - they situate the estimate so you will never get an accurate picture. Were you to have provided something from a more reputable source (hint - somewhere like the UN, IMF or NGO) you wouldn't have embarrassed yourself so. Back to special school for you; they'll wonder where you've been all this time.

BigTuna wrote:I said "A Top City". And I proved it.

You only proved that your argument is flawed, minor-league and bound to lose - just like your leaves. Toronto has never routinely been "A Top City", and the only instance when it was cited as such came from one corporate-sponsored study. Your argument is pig-shit, just like your city.

Lancer wrote:

BigTuna wrote:Classic back-tracking. I gave you what you asked. You are so out of it you thought I would never produce it.Now you're making odd claims about the sources.

You didn't give me what I asked. I asked for sources to back your asinine assertion that Toronto was routinely a 'top city'.

Again, let's refer you to the definition of 'top': http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/top :
a (1) : the highest position (as in rank or achievement)

In only one instance did you provide a source which backed up only one part of your assertion - thus making your assertion as asinine and flawed as your cesspool of a municipality. It was only once a 'top' city, which is the diametric opposite of 'routinely'. If you still need help, one of my wife's pre-school kids can give you a hand. They only charge fish crackers.

BigTuna wrote:You told me no sources existed!

Let's refer you to what I actually said:

Lancer wrote:Sources, or I call bullshit.

Nowhere did I say no sources existed. I just said your citation and sources are as shitty as the quagmire you defend. So you resort to fictions to back up your argument - which is understandable considering how self-deluded one has to be to want to live there.

BigTuna wrote:How are those bad sources? One of them was touted in Vancouver a lot. What high school students would not include those legitimate sources? From a special school I guess.

Because corporate-sponsored 'studies' by media 'intelligence units' (what a crock of a title) are SOOOO reliable. That's like the Wall Street Journal commissioning a study of best places to live - they situate the estimate so you will never get an accurate picture. Were you to have provided something from a more reputable source (hint - somewhere like the UN, IMF or NGO) you wouldn't have embarrassed yourself so. Back to special school for you; they'll wonder where you've been all this time.

BigTuna wrote:I said "A Top City". And I proved it.

You only proved that your argument is flawed, minor-league and bound to lose - just like your leaves. Toronto has never routinely been "A Top City", and the only instance when it was cited as such came from one corporate-sponsored study. Your argument is pig-shit, just like your city.

Toronto is on every list Vancouver gets named. And you guys pump that up so much. This is why I'm a little confused why you're shocked I'm saying this. It isn't news. The quality of life in Toronto is amongst the best. This is news only to you.
And really, calm down with the anger towards Toronto will you? It's just stupid. We're all Canadians in a great country. I don't recall anyone in Ontario mooching off of the rest of Canada or trying to separate from our country like Quebec has. Go bother them.
Yes, one of the cleanest, safest big cities anywhere is "Pig Shit", gotcha

BTW here's another: Toronto #1 in the world.
http://globalnews.ca/news/2160910/toron ... -magazine/

I don't know about pig shit, but Lancer just took a huge dump on Big Tunas chest.

Blob Mckenzie wrote:I don't know about pig shit, but Lancer just took a huge dump on Big Tunas chest.

Oh I was so owned, wasn't I? LOL.

I came up with what was asked. Toronto is considered a top city in the world just like Vancouver. People need to settle down with the hate. I know you're brainwashed to hate Toronto, but it's not nearly as bad as most in Canada think. I've had people in Winnipeg say that is a much better city than Toronto. I got a good laugh.
I wonder if Lancer has travelled as much as I have?

Again, ANY source you bring up that has Vancouver as a top city also contains Toronto in the list.

I lived in Toronto on and off in my life. Always liked it. Like Montreal too. Lived in Calgary for one year working the bush but did not get to know it well. Love Victoria also. Heard good things about Winnipeg and also Ottawa. Never been to Maritimes and would love to go. Canada is awsome.

If Van does not win the Cup first for Canada I would like another Canadian city to do it soon and if it is Toronto then so be it. Just bring it back to Canada.

Victoria is a beautiful city. I much prefer it to Vancouver

People hate the Leaves due to the perceived douchiness of Leaf fans in general.

It follows that folks hate the city of Toronto for the same reason.

If there's one thing more sickening than a proud Leaf fan

... it's a closet Leaf fan.

The Great Strangelove has spoken.

BigTuna wrote: I'm willing to bet the leaves finish higher in the standings this year. Remember, without that winning streak the last 3 games, the Canucks could have finished 30th. The leaves have now surpassed them in talent.

How has nobody jumped on this yet?
No matter, I’ll take that bet yesterday.
Should we say $20? I’m much more confident than that but $20 won’t get me riled up much when you inevitably welch on the bet. It’s more of a pride thing anyways. Even if I didn't follow hockey I'd jump all over this, what with the 100% inaccuracy of anything and EVERYTHING you've ever predicted regarding the Laughs.

Oh, and never mind the Canucks are at a disadvantage as they play in a better division.
Never mind the Canucks are at a disadvantage as they reside in the vastly superior Western Conference.
Never mind the Canucks are at a disadvantage because of a travel schedule that is infinitely worse and that, without a doubt, contributes to the team’s usually absurd amount of man-games lost most years.

That’s right, we won’t bother trying to handicap these disparities. I’ll give it to you straight up; however, if you are so cocksure of yourself and the Laughs, you can make up for these inequalities by sweetening the pot some. Let's say putting your future posting here at the Corner on the line as well. Not a complete banishment but when you lose, in addition to the $20, you don’t post anything even remotely leaves related here at the Corner again. Ever. Then the mods can go ahead and close this thread permanently unless Ol Paddy is going to take up the Laughs mantle or if Doc continues to need a outlet for his unbridled TO hatred.

So what say you? Are you ready to back up your jive-talking, jive turkey?

I love OLD paddy

Rocky Dennis wrote:

BigTuna wrote: I'm willing to bet the leaves finish higher in the standings this year. Remember, without that winning streak the last 3 games, the Canucks could have finished 30th. The leaves have now surpassed them in talent.

How has nobody jumped on this yet?
No matter, I’ll take that bet yesterday.
Should we say $20? I’m much more confident than that but $20 won’t get me riled up much when you inevitably welch on the bet. It’s more of a pride thing anyways. Even if I didn't follow hockey I'd jump all over this, what with the 100% inaccuracy of anything and EVERYTHING you've ever predicted regarding the Laughs.

Oh, and never mind the Canucks are at a disadvantage as they play in a better division.
Never mind the Canucks are at a disadvantage as they reside in the vastly superior Western Conference.
Never mind the Canucks are at a disadvantage because of a travel schedule that is infinitely worse and that, without a doubt, contributes to the team’s usually absurd amount of man-games lost most years.

That’s right, we won’t bother trying to handicap these disparities. I’ll give it to you straight up; however, if you are so cocksure of yourself and the Laughs, you can make up for these inequalities by sweetening the pot some. Let's say putting your future posting here at the Corner on the line as well. Not a complete banishment but when you lose, in addition to the $20, you don’t post anything even remotely leaves related here at the Corner again. Ever. Then the mods can go ahead and close this thread permanently unless Ol Paddy is going to take up the Laughs mantle or if Doc continues to need a outlet for his unbridled TO hatred.

So what say you? Are you ready to back up your jive-talking, jive turkey?

Rocky; Be careful! Look at the line you have highlighted in red.
If taken by that line alone, you would lose the bet if the Leafers finished ONE point higher than last year, right?