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Re: Re-booted SKYO approved pipe dreams and trade ideas

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Chef Boi RD wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 6:44 am Pettersson for Norris and the Sabres 9th OA pick 2025, draft a centre like McQueen, O’Brien or Martin at 9th OA and one of Carbonneau, Cootes, Bear, Reschny or Nesbitt at 15th Just do’er.

Landing on McQueen and Nesbitt would have us a couple of giants cooking in the system down the middle of the ice to go along with Raty. This small whimpy player business needs to stop.
With so many teams looking for the same thing driving up costs, I wonder if the better move would be to stand pat and look at a collateral damage type of deal...

Maybe be the third party in a deal that needs money moved off the books and pick up picks or prospects as part of the deal rather than trading EP which I think would be the wrong move...


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rikster wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:27 am Maybe be the third party in a deal that needs money moved off the books and pick up picks or prospects as part of the deal rather than trading EP which I think would be the wrong move...


Take care...
3-party trades - even if the separate deals are spaced out by a couple days - are nothing new for this management. I suspect that they're already mapping out such options for the offseason.

In this event, I wager we'll see something happen the week before the draft.

Wake me till then... :mex:
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Lancer wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 9:15 am In this event, I wager we'll see something happen the week before the draft.
Wake me till then... :mex:
That's where I'm at. Of course all players (other than Hughes) are open for talks - we have to assume that management is doing everything they can to make the team better, and the rumour mill will be in high gear until some moves are made. #Yawn
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In the spirit of SKYO, keep the rumour mill churning!! Where there is smoke there is fire, where there is fire there is a burning bush!
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Mon Jun 02, 2025 4:31 pm Send Chytil and his mushy melon on his merry way.

JT Miller

For

M. Pettersson
Mancini
O’Connor

Ouch, not pretty.

Anaheim is not trading McTavish. This is Sekeres level bad trade suggestion,

I could see a bounce back year from Pettersson, fingers crossed. But how long will it last? Will he care to put in the effort consistently?
They also gained cap space dealing Heinen and Desharnais. The idea would be to trim a majority of Shityl's contract off the books. Next year they would have an extra 4.2 million to spend if they buy him out. The following year Miky's 800 K comes off the books so that is helpful.

As for Pettersson, trade his ass if the rumors of being uncoachable are true. If you can't take direction from the twins, beat it. Sorry Megs you aren't dealing the cap hit for picks only and freeing up 11.6. Norris and the Sabres pick works for me. Finally a Dude thought with some actual thought. They may have to eat a 3 million dollar bum from Buffalo.

With 2 or 3 shrewd moves this team can be a top 10 team in the league.

It all depends how their planned trades before and around the draft. I tend to believe the old man when he says they are going to be busy. He telegraphs a lot of this shit. Having an extra 4 million to spend is massive.
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Basis for a 3 way trade:


to Buffalo

EP40. (Baldies revenge on sulky Petey)
Hogs. (to hold Petey's hand on the plane ride across NA)

To Col

Chytil, Canucks 1st and Buffalo 1st, plus mid 6 forward player from Buffalo

to Van

Necas and Norris
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The cap space is all dependent on what happens with the Demko extension. If they extend him, going by what goalies of his caliber are getting - $7.5 to $8.5 million, a Demko extension could see a raise on his current $5 million turn into $7.5 to $8.5 next season. Personally I’m not seeing the logic of carrying two goalies - Lankinen and Demko on two very big contracts. Something has to give here, in that not sure how we can keep both if Demko is extended. Even at a discount, Demko won’t be cheap? $6.5 million per?

Drew O’Connor at $2.5 million cap hit is mystifying.
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theman wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 10:29 am Basis for a 3 way trade:


to Buffalo

EP40. (Baldies revenge on sulky Petey)
Hogs. (to hold Petey's hand on the plane ride across NA)

To Col

Chytil, Canucks 1st and Buffalo 1st, plus mid 6 forward player from Buffalo

to Van

Necas and Norris
What a kick in the pills that would be when the (alleged) offer 18 months ago was Necas + Kotkaniemi + 1st just for Pettersson.

Now we're paying Pettersson + 2 first round picks + Hoglander for Necas + Norris.
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 10:38 am The cap space is all dependent on what happens with the Demko extension. If they extend him, going by what goalies of his caliber are getting - $7.5 to $8.5 million, a Demko extension could see a raise on his current $5 million turn into $7.5 to $8.5 next season. Personally I’m not seeing the logic of carrying two goalies - Lankinen and Demko on two very big contracts. Something has to give here, in that not sure how we can keep both if Demko is extended. Even at a discount, Demko won’t be cheap? $6.5 million per?

Drew O’Connor at $2.5 million cap hit is mystifying.
The O'Connor contract is standard fare for 3rd/4th line players. He can PK a bit, has some pace and I don't think he has trade protection. I'd rather pay Jeannot 3 million+ to crack some skulls and score 10 or 12 goals. They better fucking address how soft and wimpy this team is.
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 10:38 am Something has to give here, in that not sure how we can keep both if Demko is extended. Even at a discount, Demko won’t be cheap? $6.5 million per?
With Lankinen having a NMC, I can see Demko moved with Silvos moving up. Not the best tandem we've ever had, but decent enough to keep us in games.
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rikster wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 7:27 am
Chef Boi RD wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 6:44 am Pettersson for Norris and the Sabres 9th OA pick 2025, draft a centre like McQueen, O’Brien or Martin at 9th OA and one of Carbonneau, Cootes, Bear, Reschny or Nesbitt at 15th Just do’er.

Landing on McQueen and Nesbitt would have us a couple of giants cooking in the system down the middle of the ice to go along with Raty. This small whimpy player business needs to stop.
With so many teams looking for the same thing driving up costs, I wonder if the better move would be to stand pat and look at a collateral damage type of deal...

Maybe be the third party in a deal that needs money moved off the books and pick up picks or prospects as part of the deal rather than trading EP which I think would be the wrong move...


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Mëds wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 11:11 am
theman wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 10:29 am Basis for a 3 way trade:


to Buffalo

EP40. (Baldies revenge on sulky Petey)
Hogs. (to hold Petey's hand on the plane ride across NA)

To Col

Chytil, Canucks 1st and Buffalo 1st, plus mid 6 forward player from Buffalo

to Van

Necas and Norris
What a kick in the pills that would be when the (alleged) offer 18 months ago was Necas + Kotkaniemi + 1st just for Pettersson.

Now we're paying Pettersson + 2 first round picks + Hoglander for Necas + Norris.
It would be, also I would imagine in this scenario Canucks do not retain.
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theman wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 11:42 am
Mëds wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 11:11 am
theman wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 10:29 am Basis for a 3 way trade:


to Buffalo

EP40. (Baldies revenge on sulky Petey)
Hogs. (to hold Petey's hand on the plane ride across NA)

To Col

Chytil, Canucks 1st and Buffalo 1st, plus mid 6 forward player from Buffalo

to Van

Necas and Norris
What a kick in the pills that would be when the (alleged) offer 18 months ago was Necas + Kotkaniemi + 1st just for Pettersson.

Now we're paying Pettersson + 2 first round picks + Hoglander for Necas + Norris.
It would be, also I would imagine in this scenario Canucks do not retain.
I should hope not. However, they weren't retaining in the other one either.....
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Cornuck wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 11:21 am
Chef Boi RD wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 10:38 am Something has to give here, in that not sure how we can keep both if Demko is extended. Even at a discount, Demko won’t be cheap? $6.5 million per?
With Lankinen having a NMC, I can see Demko moved with Silvos moving up. Not the best tandem we've ever had, but decent enough to keep us in games.
Considering that the general way to build your team, apart from a full tear down and rebuild, is to trade from a position of strength to strengthen an area of weakness. Our strengths are our blueline and crease, and if there really is a team out there that will ignore Demko's injury history and pay the price a Vezina nominated talent, then that is one possibility that should be explored.

The news about Silovs, while encouraging, should be taken with a grain of salt though. He was also rumoured to be an up-and-comer (lacking experience) when he took the crease in the 2024 playoffs, he made some fairly incredible stops in the scrambles and down low, but was exposed for his inability to track longer shots through traffic. He then was not looking like he was NHL ready in training camp and pre-season. All that just to say that it may be premature to suggest any sort of confidence in a Lankinen-Silovs combination between the pipes.
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Mëds wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 11:56 am The news about Silovs, while encouraging, should be taken with a grain of salt though. He was also rumoured to be an up-and-comer (lacking experience) when he took the crease in the 2024 playoffs, he made some fairly incredible stops in the scrambles and down low, but was exposed for his inability to track longer shots through traffic. He then was not looking like he was NHL ready in training camp and pre-season. All that just to say that it may be premature to suggest any sort of confidence in a Lankinen-Silovs combination between the pipes.
If management is confident enough that Silovs has sorted out his issue with long-range shots through traffic, the Demko becomes a chip. That was really the vulnerability Edmonton exposed last Spring. Outside of a couple rough outings, he's looked the part of a young stud prospect this playoffs. We'll see how he does the rest of the way, but he is undoubtedly looking more like what management thought they had against Nashville vice what they saw in training camp.

Yeah, Demko and Lankinen are a better tandem on paper but Lankinen and Silovs are not a tire fire either.

Put another way, which tandem would you rather?

Stollarz and Woll

or

Lankinen and Silovs?
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