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Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 1:38 pm
by SKYO
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The biggest change appears to be one that will now have Ryan Suter skate on the same defense pairing as Jonas Brodin.
One person that was not a fan of that decision: Ryan Suter.

The biggest problem Suter has is the fact that both he and Brodin are left-handed shots, which forces one of them to play on their offside and limits their options with the puck. Suter was brutally honest about it on Monday.

"I guess they decided to change things up. I don't know what they're thinking," Suter said. "It's different, I need to play with a right-handed defensemen to give me more options in the neutral zone, offensively and even coming out of the D zone. It's not fair to put a guy on his offside. I don't know if it's just for practice today or what it is, they didn't say anything."
Suter makes a good point about right handed dmen to play with their LD counterparts, which got me to check the current right shot dmen on the Canucks:

Tanev, Stecher, Guddy, Biega with prospects: Chatfield and Brassard (with hopefully Bouchard. :D )

Edler - Stecher
MDZ - Tanev
(Pouliot/Juolevi) - Gudbranson
Sautner - Biega
Brisebois - Chatfield

So Hutton is adios amigos.

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 6:38 pm
by Strangelove
SKYO wrote: Wed May 16, 2018 1:38 pm So Hutton is adios amigos.
Gonzo Alonzo?

Buenas Noches Senor Sanchez?

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:59 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
SKYO wrote: Wed May 16, 2018 1:38 pm
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The biggest change appears to be one that will now have Ryan Suter skate on the same defense pairing as Jonas Brodin.
One person that was not a fan of that decision: Ryan Suter.

The biggest problem Suter has is the fact that both he and Brodin are left-handed shots, which forces one of them to play on their offside and limits their options with the puck. Suter was brutally honest about it on Monday.

"I guess they decided to change things up. I don't know what they're thinking," Suter said. "It's different, I need to play with a right-handed defensemen to give me more options in the neutral zone, offensively and even coming out of the D zone. It's not fair to put a guy on his offside. I don't know if it's just for practice today or what it is, they didn't say anything."
Suter makes a good point about right handed dmen to play with their LD counterparts, which got me to check the current right shot dmen on the Canucks:

Tanev, Stecher, Guddy, Biega with prospects: Chatfield and Brassard (with hopefully Bouchard. :D )

Edler - Stecher
MDZ - Tanev
(Pouliot/Juolevi) - Gudbranson
Sautner - Biega
Brisebois - Chatfield

So Hutton is adios amigos.
Other than that that defencecis late 70s Habs.... minus Bill Nyrop

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:18 pm
by Cherry Picker
In two years:

Tryamkin Boqvist
Juolevi Tanev
Edler Gudbranson
Saunter Stecher

Edler will play a lot longer than most here expect. He ends up being the team’s edler statesman when they make the playoffs again.

MDZ, Hutton, Pouliot are your defensive trade chips for a couple low draft picks somewhere down the road.

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 3:09 pm
by SKYO
To reiterate on the Sedins retiring, I think the Canucks will be going through a huge culture change in how the team plays and its new swagger with the new young leaders at the helm.

The Sedins represented the classy gentleman lifestyle, high IQ players who didn't engage in fighting and shied away from the nasty side of the game totally.

While I believe with the Travis Green coaching philosophy in fast/gritty/effort play, with Horvat, Boeser, Virtanen etc up front, the team will have a new aggressive look, young hungry millionaires.

They'll definitely be a new energy to the team moving forward.

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 3:29 pm
by Mickey107
Skyo, I hope Luois Eriksson is in earshot of your new Canuck motto. 8-)

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 3:40 pm
by SKYO
Eriksson is what he is, he has the same gentleman style game as the twins, but he's a different style of point producer, he has a solid 200ft game, his metrics say he makes his linemates better, he's as reliable as they come, but how he gets his points is by being around the net and being an opportunist (that's how Claude Julien used him), he should be a staple on the powerplay now that the sedins have left with his long reach, he should be superb banging in loose pucks and snipes in the slot.

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 10:00 am
by Cousin Strawberry
SKYO wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 3:40 pm Eriksson is what he is, he has the same gentleman style game as the twins, but he's a different style of point producer, he has a solid 200ft game, his metrics say he makes his linemates better, he's as reliable as they come, but how he gets his points is by being around the net and being an opportunist (that's how Claude Julien used him), he should be a staple on the powerplay now that the sedins have left with his long reach, he should be superb banging in loose pucks and snipes in the slot.
He needs to be driven to the airport

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 10:53 am
by SKYO
haha bruh I'm giving him another chance, no choice really, put Eriksson with Dahlen and Pettersson and let the old Swedish bull help those youngin's along.

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 12:15 pm
by Mickey107
Uncle dans leg wrote: Fri May 18, 2018 10:00 am
SKYO wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 3:40 pm Eriksson is what he is, he has the same gentleman style game as the twins, but he's a different style of point producer, he has a solid 200ft game, his metrics say he makes his linemates better, he's as reliable as they come, but how he gets his points is by being around the net and being an opportunist (that's how Claude Julien used him), he should be a staple on the powerplay now that the sedins have left with his long reach, he should be superb banging in loose pucks and snipes in the slot.
He needs to be driven to the airport
I'll even take him in the Camaro :mrgreen:

But no, we have to make the assumption something new and wondrous manifests itself and a 60 point player pops up.

He should go back to the old look with the short hair though.
The mop doesn't work, not to mention, it looks creepy. :devil:

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:37 am
by Blob Mckenzie
Baertschi Horvat Boeser
Eriksson Sutter Granlund
Gagner Beagle Lipstick
Roussel Kero Motte
Goldobin Petterson Dahlen
Gaudette Gaunce Virtanen

May as well re up Dowd and Archibald as well.


Edler Tanev
Hutton Gudbranson
Pouliott Biega
Hutton Stecher
Juolevi Hughes

Markstrom
Nilsson
Demko


LOL what a mess

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:16 am
by Topper
lipstick the hoople are the new chaput and megma

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:30 pm
by Strangelove
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:37 am Baertschi Horvat Boeser
Eriksson Sutter Granlund
Gagner Beagle Lipstick
Roussel Kero Motte
Goldobin Petterson Dahlen
Gaudette Gaunce Virtanen
The off-season is young Blob.

I know this is a foreign concept to you but... patience?

There may be trades.

Also, nothing wrong with competition for jobs.

Barring a miracle, Kero and Motte will play for the Comets this year.

A few others are waive-able, a few are flush-able.

I don't see a problem, maybe shakes out something like this:


Lipstick/ Baertschi – Horvat – Boeser
Dahlen – Gagner – Pettersson
Eriksson/ Gaudette – Sutter – Virtanen
Roussel - Beagle – Schaller
Gaunce /Granlund


Who knows at this point, many possibilities... and that's a good thing.

Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:37 am Edler Tanev
Hutton Gudbranson
Pouliott Biega
Hutton Stecher
Juolevi Hughes
I have a feeling both of those Huttons will be traded.
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:37 am Markstrom
Nilsson
Demko
Shrug, looks good to me...

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:43 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
That’s still 16 forwards

I am patient. It’s the IGC crew that isn’t.

I’ve been advocating building through the draft and adding picks while IGC only want the standard amount of picks and not one extra.

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:59 pm
by Strangelove
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:43 pm the standard amount of picks and not one extra
... as long as ALSO other "young developing players" are coming in - YES

The overall potential of those "young developing players" that came in

... is/was greater than any extra picks we could have had.