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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:39 pm
by Curmudgeon
Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:08 pm
Curmudgeon wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:05 pm
Megaterio Llamas wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:45 pm
Curmudgeon wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:43 pm
Megaterio Llamas wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:30 pm
Remember folks. Columbus just gave away Ryan Murray and Markus Nutivaara for a fifth round draft pick and Cliff Pu, respectively and that's a rough equivalent pair to Stecher/Tanev. Owners are instructing gms to unload contracts, finding a couple of defencemen in this climate should be easy.
Time to offer sheet Cernak.
What the hay, why not try it eh. Tampa is in a heck of a bind right now. They might not be able to match.
Or Pulock. Islanders have to get Barzal, Towes, and Pulock signed with $9 million to work with but they're still in better shape than the Canucks.
Pulock is a damn good player. Right age, RH shot, can play in all situations. Yeah the Islanders are going to have to shed some $$ to get Barzal inked long term. Sweet Lou has kinda butchered up their cap too.
I like him, he'd be a great fit. Barzal probably takes up the space they have remaining.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:58 pm
by SKYO
Matt Benning only $1M AAV x2, that's what Stecher should get.
Brodie got $5Mx4, Shattenkirk $3.9Mx3, Schultz $4Mx2 - Thus Barrie should be happy with $5M x 5yrs or 4yrs in this flat cap era.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:26 am
by Curmudgeon
I could see the Canucks ending up with at least one of Barrie, Hamonic, or Bogosian.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:48 am
by Blob Mckenzie
Curmudgeon wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:26 am
I could see the Canucks ending up with at least one of Barrie, Hamonic, or Bogosian.
Barrie scares the shit out of me. It’s already a Chinese Fire Drill on many nights in their own end. Barrie will compound that big time. He’s a rotten horrible defender. If we didn’t have Hughes I’d be all over adding him. He’s a good pp quarterback but he can’t play a lick of D. He wouldn’t get near the offensive reps or looks with QH here. I doubt Hamonic signs until there’s more clarity regarding the pandemic and what the season will look like.
I could get behind Bogosian and trading for Jake Bean or Haydn Fleury.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:07 am
by Curmudgeon
Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:48 am
Curmudgeon wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:26 am
I could see the Canucks ending up with at least one of Barrie, Hamonic, or Bogosian.
Barrie scares the shit out of me. It’s already a Chinese Fire Drill on many nights in their own end. Barrie will compound that big time. He’s a rotten horrible defender. If we didn’t have Hughes I’d be all over adding him. He’s a good pp quarterback but he can’t play a lick of D. He wouldn’t get near the offensive reps or looks with QH here. I doubt Hamonic signs until there’s more clarity regarding the pandemic and what the season will look like.
I could get behind Bogosian and trading for Jake Bean or Haydn Fleury.
I agree completely. Fleury is interesting for sure and not someone I had thought of.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:10 am
by Mickey107
Darren Dreger@DarrenDreger
Andre Burakovsky stays in Colorado. 2 years.
First year $4.4 mil, second year $5.4. Aav $4.9 mil.
6:37 AM · Oct 10, 2020
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:20 am
by Cousin Strawberry
Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:48 am
Curmudgeon wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:26 am
I could see the Canucks ending up with at least one of Barrie, Hamonic, or Bogosian.
Barrie scares the shit out of me. It’s already a Chinese Fire Drill on many nights in their own end. Barrie will compound that big time. He’s a rotten horrible defender. If we didn’t have Hughes I’d be all over adding him. He’s a good pp quarterback but he can’t play a lick of D. He wouldn’t get near the offensive reps or looks with QH here. I doubt Hamonic signs until there’s more clarity regarding the pandemic and what the season will look like.
I could get behind Bogosian and trading for Jake Bean or Haydn Fleury.
When you watch Benning on his draft insider piece, they hammer away about "speed and skill"
Not sure he wants anything to do with those plodding clydesdales
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:26 am
by Blob Mckenzie
Bean and Fleury are both strong skaters
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:28 am
by Cousin Strawberry
Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:26 am
Bean and Fleury are both strong skaters
Ok I confess I dont know either player whatsoever
Bowgosian tho....fuck that
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:30 am
by Blob Mckenzie
Bogo is a Luke Schenn type. He’s big and physical and he’ll be cheap.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:31 am
by theman
Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:30 am
Bogo is a Luke Schenn type. He’s big and physical and he’ll be cheap.
If he's cheap and can hit and fight, then I am for signing him as a #6.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:34 am
by Curmudgeon
The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:28 am
Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:26 am
Bean and Fleury are both strong skaters
Ok I confess I dont know either player whatsoever
Bowgosian tho....fuck that
Beggars can't be choosers though and that's where they're almost at with the defense. Or they could suck it up and ride it out and let some contracts expire but that may mean no playoffs next season and I'd bet that costs Benning his job.
Watching limited amounts of Mike Futa on Sportsnet and he seems like a rational, intelligent dude. Canucks should kick the tires on him in some capacity.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:36 am
by Meds
SKYO wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:58 pm
Matt Benning only $1M AAV x2, that's what Stecher should get.
Brodie got $5Mx4, Shattenkirk $3.9Mx3, Schultz $4Mx2 - Thus Barrie should be happy with $5M x 5yrs or 4yrs in this flat cap era.
Krug just got $6.5Mx7.
Barrie and Krug have very comparable stat lines despite Barrie's down year.
Krug is smarter defensively, but he was possibly insulated by strong defensive partners and a killer team defense. He's now on another similar team and should do well. However their career stats are so close it will be interesting to see what happens.
Shattenkirk has been a yo-yo since leaving St. Louis. Brodie and Schultz are not in the same category of talent as Krug and Barrie.
I can't see Barrie taking $5M or less to go anywhere for more than a couple of years after Krug's deal.
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:43 am
by Cousin Strawberry
I have trouble seeing him sign for less than 5 years though. Hes 29 and this is when he is supposed to set himself and his kids up for life.
I can easily see him joining the canucks but I doubt he'll sacrifice his future to do so
Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:45 am
by Mickey107
Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:30 am
Bogo is a Luke Schenn type. He’s big and physical and he’ll be cheap.
Wouldn't want much term though, right? That wouldn't be good.