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Ok Sweden, USA, Belarus and Brazil. All bastions of right wing extremism?Per wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 12:03 pmHave you heard about Brazil and Belarus?The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 11:52 am The countries that sealed themselves off early and diligently hunted down carriers are now sitting at and around 0 cases (NZ, Taiwan, etc). These would appear to be engaging in the most successful strategy and if they can continue to control who comes and goes through their borders it would be the most effective solution while awaiting vaccine development.
Obviously my 2 examples are island nations but i think this has been the global consensus success pathway to beating this thing ( except for Sweden and apparently the USA)
Belarus is afaik the only country to still have professional sports events with spectators.
Bolsonaro is still doing the early Trump ”it’s just a flu” shtick and fired a health minister for wanting a lockdown.
As someone who doesnt want it to run through my household i would much prefer suppression5thhorseman wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 12:09 pm Taiwan was also more prepared as they were hit hard by SARS in 2003. However other Asia-Pacific nations that have had strict lockdowns are having trouble opening up without a resurgence. Suppression is probably a losing battle, and the so-called "global consensus" is probably due to politics as no politician wants to be associated with a high death count.
Agree with it not running through my household or my immediate family but for how long can we keep this up?The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 12:26 pmAs someone who doesnt want it to run through my household i would much prefer suppression5thhorseman wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 12:09 pm Taiwan was also more prepared as they were hit hard by SARS in 2003. However other Asia-Pacific nations that have had strict lockdowns are having trouble opening up without a resurgence. Suppression is probably a losing battle, and the so-called "global consensus" is probably due to politics as no politician wants to be associated with a high death count.
HA! You just better pay up when you lose that little bet of ours.5thhorseman wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 10:18 am Vaccine development typically takes 18 months, so that would be mid-2021. Then, about 6 months to mass-produce it and vaccinate everyone, so end-2021. That's worst-case as there will probably be some shortcuts taken with respect to testing/certification, though that raises other issues. It's also best-case in that it may not be possible to develop a vaccine at all ... remember, there's never been one for a coronavirus yet (common cold, SARS, MERS).
Belize likewise, no new cases in over two weeks. Closed borders, strict curfew and restricted internal travel. Though testing may be suspect.The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 11:52 am The countries that sealed themselves off early and diligently hunted down carriers are now sitting at and around 0 cases (NZ, Taiwan, etc). These would appear to be engaging in the most successful strategy and if they can continue to control who comes and goes through their borders it would be the most effective solution while awaiting vaccine development.
Obviously my 2 examples are island nations but i think this has been the global consensus success pathway to beating this thing ( except for Sweden and apparently the USA)
Pay up? Oh, I guess you want me to unblock Reefer so you can share your misery, lol.Strangelove wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 3:15 pmHA! You just better pay up when you lose that little bet of ours.5thhorseman wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 10:18 am Vaccine development typically takes 18 months, so that would be mid-2021. Then, about 6 months to mass-produce it and vaccinate everyone, so end-2021. That's worst-case as there will probably be some shortcuts taken with respect to testing/certification, though that raises other issues. It's also best-case in that it may not be possible to develop a vaccine at all ... remember, there's never been one for a coronavirus yet (common cold, SARS, MERS).
Good thing I mentioned it.5thhorseman wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 3:56 pm Pay up? Oh, I guess you want me to unblock Reefer so you can share your misery, lol.
Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 5:40 pm Doc how’d you like my postings today? Not bad for a Dude with zero background in Economics and military funding. I just copy and paste shit like it’s going out of style
Doc, what about Kynan Dutton? Solid Bloke?Strangelove wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 5:36 pmChef Boi RD wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 5:40 pm Doc how’d you like my postings today? Not bad for a Dude with zero background in Economics and military funding. I just copy and paste shit like it’s going out of style
Me too. I’m feeling ill from all the covid drinking, the body is surrendering “no mas”. A break is in order here as wellDoyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 5:45 pm Hargraves has hit a wall. No more boozing during the week.