Why? What’s the point? Do you honestly believe such a trade makes a world of difference to the team? Every time we do this, force the issue (retool after retool) instead of simply being patient, all it ends up being is just another bullet to the foot. Have we not learned by now? Are we this dumbed down? We are the Cotton Hill of the league, there is no more feet to shoot at, ffs.Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Fri May 16, 2025 8:51 pm Lots of rumbling about the Canucks are open to training one of their promising young defense prospects for a center.
So here are the three that might be used to bring back a good young center with equivalent upside:
Mancini - DPete - Willander
Of these 3, who would you be willing to use to get what we need?
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I'm not advocating for or against I'm just spit balling on what may happen based on the rumours an the semi-coherent ramblings of an old man.
What if this trade brings back Kent Johnson? He's an excellent up and coming center. He would be a fantastic addition.
Is losing a stay at home defender with limited offensive upside worth nixing a trade due to a belief that we trade too many home grown assets?
What if this trade brings back Kent Johnson? He's an excellent up and coming center. He would be a fantastic addition.
Is losing a stay at home defender with limited offensive upside worth nixing a trade due to a belief that we trade too many home grown assets?
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So, the Blue Jackets are trading Kent Johnson now? Cuz, listen to yourself man. First of all, they don’t need to make such a trade, second of all, Kent Johnson ain’t fixing the problem. You finally land on a great young D prospect and now you want to go full Aqualini impatient and move him? Dude, settle the fuck down. You’re worst than Matt Sekeres right now.Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Sat May 17, 2025 9:10 amThe scenario I'm talking about would be for just that.Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Sat May 17, 2025 8:42 am They aren't trading D Petey unless someone blows their socks off.
A Kent Johnson type.
So this hypothetical trade would be Dpete plus 15o/a for KJ
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Kent Johnson hasn’t played centre since junior.Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Sat May 17, 2025 9:14 am I'm not advocating for or against I'm just spit balling on what may happen based on the rumours an the semi-coherent ramblings of an old man.
What if this trade brings back Kent Johnson? He's an excellent up and coming center. He would be a fantastic addition.
Is losing a stay at home defender with limited offensive upside worth nixing a trade due to a belief that we trade too many home grown assets?
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You're fixating on my example not what I'm saying.
There are teams out there that need defenders who also own promising center prospects.
My point is who, of the three defenders I mentioned, would you be willing to sacrifice to bring back a center at the same point in development with equivalent upside.
Answer zee question!
There are teams out there that need defenders who also own promising center prospects.
My point is who, of the three defenders I mentioned, would you be willing to sacrifice to bring back a center at the same point in development with equivalent upside.
Answer zee question!
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Round round we go, like a marry go round…while one guy in the canoe is baling water, his partner is drilling holes. Do you not see the madness?Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Sat May 17, 2025 9:20 am You're fixating on my example not what I'm saying.
There are teams out there that need defenders who also own promising center prospects.
My point is who, of the three defenders I mentioned, would you be willing to sacrifice to bring back a center at the same point in development with equivalent upside.
Answer zee question!
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So this isn't a fan board fantasy. The team has openly spoken about moving a defender for some help up front.
It's happening whether we want it to or not so....back to my point in the syko pipe dream discussions.
How about Will Smith for Willander?
It's happening whether we want it to or not so....back to my point in the syko pipe dream discussions.
How about Will Smith for Willander?
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Do you not find it a little amusing how obsessed we were at the start of this insane journey to fix our defence at the expense of other positions? And now, here we find us, trying to complete the circle by trying to fix an area of a lineup that was sacrificed to fix our defence by sacrificing our defence to fix?Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Sat May 17, 2025 9:30 am So this isn't a fan board fantasy. The team has openly spoken about moving a defender for some help up front.
It's happening whether we want it to or not so....back to my point in the syko pipe dream discussions.
How about Will Smith for Willander?
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Leave the defence alone until Hughes re-signs.
Strategically the guys to trade with significant value are Demko, Garland, Bluegar and Sherwood.
They are all UFAs the season after this coming one. The team has a habit of walking these types of players to free agency. Sherwood especially is likely valued higher around the league than he is on the team because of his hits record, but really a guy like Blais is nearly as good because he hit way more viciously.
All of them, except injured Demko, had good seasons last year and will be near their peak trade value right now.
All of them may want a significant raises and maybe too much money for management to be comfortable with when they are eligible to re-sign.
Management best strategy would be getting ahead of the game with possible contract troubles with those four and trading them now for the 2C they need.
Strategically the guys to trade with significant value are Demko, Garland, Bluegar and Sherwood.
They are all UFAs the season after this coming one. The team has a habit of walking these types of players to free agency. Sherwood especially is likely valued higher around the league than he is on the team because of his hits record, but really a guy like Blais is nearly as good because he hit way more viciously.
All of them, except injured Demko, had good seasons last year and will be near their peak trade value right now.
All of them may want a significant raises and maybe too much money for management to be comfortable with when they are eligible to re-sign.
Management best strategy would be getting ahead of the game with possible contract troubles with those four and trading them now for the 2C they need.
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None of those 4 guys has significant value.
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Honestly I would like to keep all our D. Just not much else we can trade for a top six centre.
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How about we do nothing for once? Because when we don’t do nothing for once it gets us no further than where we were prior to doing something when we should’ve done nothing.
But I get it, doing something is more fun than doing nothing. It gives us a false sense that progress is being made when in fact, we just end up back at square one. I’m calling this new approach - the Square One Methodology.
But I get it, doing something is more fun than doing nothing. It gives us a false sense that progress is being made when in fact, we just end up back at square one. I’m calling this new approach - the Square One Methodology.
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Me too. Stay patient, save your money, save your picks, save your prospects. Now is not the time to force progress. But more importantly recognize the players “whom” are entering UFA status, the ones you want to keep and don’t want to and the ones you don’t want back, fucking trade them for something. The asset management of this organization is fucking awful and needs to improve. We need to stop being the dumbest organization in the league.Hockey Widow wrote: ↑Sat May 17, 2025 11:13 am Honestly I would like to keep all our D. Just not much else we can trade for a top six centre.
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This is key.
However, if the team has their finger on his pulse and know that he's happy in Van AND he wants to win...you make this move
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Get the good Granlund for 3 years x 7 if you can. But its going to be his last substantial deal so he may not want to come here.
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