Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

[Chef Boi RD]

Well i just took a peek at their cupboards and it has a few ok pieces in there but fuck all really. They wont move a pick or any of their better prospects considering their lot in life so it would have to be a vet.

No thanks to any of that crap

Doyle? Thoughts?

[Blob Mckenzie]

Well i just took a peek at their cupboards and it has a few ok pieces in there but fuck all really. They wont move a pick or any of their better prospects considering their lot in life so it would have to be a vet.

No thanks to any of that crap

Doyle? Thoughts?

They wouldn’t give up Vilardi, Thomas, Turcotte, Kaliyev, Bjornfoot, or The kid from the Swedish teaming Hoglander’s line for Demko. Who else you got in mind?

[Carl Yagro]

He’s 6 feet and change.....when did that become midget?

Marty Brodeur was 6’1” and change.....wasn’t he pretty good?

Relax, big guy. That was hyperbole. But honestly, I always take listings with a grain of salt.

Marty is the GOAT, but that was a different era. He started when goalies still played stand-up and he eventually hybridized. He also had Lemaire's trap, a Scott Stevens led Defense and no trapezoid to impede his stickhandling skills.

Today's game is more about positioning and technique and less reliance on reflexes. There is a huge difference between a goalie who's 6'0'' and one who's 6'4" or 6'5".

I'm more than willing to be wrong, but I truly do not have much faith that Mikey, relying on a style of reflexes and athleticism, is going to have much of an NHL career.

[Meds]

He’s 6 feet and change.....when did that become midget?

Marty Brodeur was 6’1” and change.....wasn’t he pretty good?

Relax, big guy. That was hyperbole. But honestly, I always take listings with a grain of salt.

Marty is the GOAT, but that was a different era. He started when goalies still played stand-up and he eventually hybridized. He also had Lemaire's trap, a Scott Stevens led Defense and no trapezoid to impede his stickhandling skills.

Today's game is more about positioning and technique and less reliance on reflexes. There is a huge difference between a goalie who's 6'0'' and one who's 6'4" or 6'5".

I'm more than willing to be wrong, but I truly do not have much faith that Mikey, relying on a style of reflexes and athleticism, is going to have much of an NHL career.

While your points are absolutely true.....

Braden Holtby 1.88m
Marc Andre Fleury 1.88m
Jonathan Quick 1.85m
Henrik Lundqvist 1.85m
Sergei Bobrovsky 1.88m
Antti Raanta 1.83m

Sure, he's on the shorter end of the spectrum, but the shorter, more mobile, goaltenders, might may be making a bit of a comeback with the changes in equipment size requiring goaltenders to play a more agile game that is less about just covering the net with bulk.

[Carl Yagro]

Fair enough, Mëds.

[Mickey107]

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There was a time when I had a hard time (not really) telling Markstrom and Nilsson apart. Big giant dudes with massive gloves the
puck couldn't find. It would go over, it would go under but damn, the sweet spot was a rarity. Then a choice was made and one remained.
Ian Clark enters the scene and in not too long a time, a valuable NHL caliber starting goalie emerges in Marky.
Now his contract is up. His "big one" regarding his age and status.
BUT: Demko is very talented too and hasn't had much time to prove how sustainable that talent is.
So this is a tough call. Even tougher for a spend to the limit team.
So for what it's worth, Micky goes with Demer "unless" Marky offers an unreal home discount, then I think a bit more but then I have to consider
term, his age, and is he Ian Clark dependent ant what if "he" left, would his play regress. The expansion draft is a factor too.
Doesn't Eriksson's contract kind of rear it's ugly head in to the situation too?.

Tough decision with nary the time it takes to assimilate the repercussions of said decision. Rinse, repeat.

[Mickey107]

NHL WASHINGTON CAPITALS 1h ago
Capitals extend C Backstrom on five-year, $46M deal

The deal will carry an average annual value of $9.2 million for Backstrom, who will turn 33 later this year. As TSN Hockey Insider Pierre LeBrun notes, Backstrom negotiated the deal by himself, acting without an agent.

https://www.tsn.ca/washington-capitals- ... -1.1427099

nice work, Nick.

[UWSaint]

NHL WASHINGTON CAPITALS 1h ago
Capitals extend C Backstrom on five-year, $46M deal

The deal will carry an average annual value of $9.2 million for Backstrom, who will turn 33 later this year. As TSN Hockey Insider Pierre LeBrun notes, Backstrom negotiated the deal by himself, acting without an agent.

https://www.tsn.ca/washington-capitals- ... -1.1427099

nice work, Nick.

Who needs an agent when you can do that?

If you think about it, Backstrom's comp is Sedin. Signed this final contract at same age, I believe. Expecting the cap to go up to $84.5 next year, each Sedins' final contract was $8.6 million in adjusted dollars (as percentage of Cap). That Backstrom got another year and $600K is a bit of a coup, though to be fair, the Sedins were coming off their worst season to date. But to be fair to the Sedins, Backstrom's best was not quite as good as the Sedins' best, the peak was earlier in Backstrom's career, and the Sedins never played with the best goal scorer of a generation....

The price difference isn't explained by NMC, either. Backstrom has one for 3 years (must be protected in expansion draft).

[damonberryman]

Markstrom is staying, Demko will eventually get the Schneider treatment

He’s an LA kid. Quick is fading fast. Apparently, according to Doyle, LA has prospects coming out of their YingYang

Well i just took a peek at their cupboards and it has a few ok pieces in there but fuck all really. They wont move a pick or any of their better prospects considering their lot in life so it would have to be a vet.

No thanks to any of that crap

How about Doughty?

Not saying I want it but I would be interested in hearing responses. He is still as warrior. Too bad he did not take Kassian's route in dealing with pests. I be he loved it.

[Chef Boi RD]

BerryMan, I love your multicoloured, abstract, outside the box thinking.

[Blob Mckenzie]

Doughty is a great player. Kings would want a lot more than Demko for him. We could never afford his cap even if we could pony up the assets. And Doughty is as bad of a fighter as Burrows.

[ESQ]

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There was a time when I had a hard time (not really) telling Markstrom and Nilsson apart. Big giant dudes with massive gloves the
puck couldn't find. It would go over, it would go under but damn, the sweet spot was a rarity. Then a choice was made and one remained.
Ian Clark enters the scene and in not too long a time, a valuable NHL caliber starting goalie emerges in Marky.
Now his contract is up. His "big one" regarding his age and status.
BUT: Demko is very talented too and hasn't had much time to prove how sustainable that talent is.
So this is a tough call. Even tougher for a spend to the limit team.
So for what it's worth, Micky goes with Demer "unless" Marky offers an unreal home discount, then I think a bit more but then I have to consider
term, his age, and is he Ian Clark dependent ant what if "he" left, would his play regress. The expansion draft is a factor too.
Doesn't Eriksson's contract kind of rear it's ugly head in to the situation too?.

Tough decision with nary the time it takes to assimilate the repercussions of said decision. Rinse, repeat.

The reason Demko hasn't had time to prove himself is injuries.

Have we all forgotten the Cloutier years? Why would we hitch our fortunes to an injury-prone goalie?

Have we also forgotten the Eddie Lack-era? Why would we let a bonafide, game-stealing #1 goalie walk?

IF we are lucky, Demko will develop to be as good as Markstrom is over the next 3 years....so why would we bank on that happening, instead of taking the sure-thing?

Its the ideal goalie situation right now - we have depth so that if one is injured, we can keep rolling. Prior to the Seattle draft, Demko will likely get an extended look again due to an injury/maintenance. Prior to this year he played 10 NHL games, and he's likely to triple that total with this year's starts.

Plus, Demko has always done substantially better his second season at an elevated level (i.e. 2nd year in AHL, 2nd year as NCAA starter). Demko will increase his value and the "problem" will sort itself out by the Seattle expansion draft. Heck, they could probably trade Demko in exchange for Seattle taking Loui off their hands if it comes to that.

[Tciso]

For sure need to be mindful of Markstrom's age. He has in all likelihood, 3-5 years left at peak. Barring injuries of course. But we also know that the expansion draft is coming up. We all know this.

I could live with a three year deal around 6.5-7.5. A 5 year deal at 5.5-6. The shorter the deal the more he is going to want to capitalize. We really need to get Demko inmate but with us being in the playoff hunt wisdom is you go with your proven starter more often than not.

I see a 3 year deal at $5.5 - $6. Looking at the goalie market, there are a lot of good goalies going to UFA this year. And unless they all get big bumps in salary, I don't see Marky getting bumped into "elite" compensation levels. He's good, but we have a pretty damned good home town bias in the group here. I hope JB doesn't give in to that bias and over-pay Marky.

[Mickey107]

IF we are lucky, Demko will develop to be as good as Markstrom is over the next 3 years....so why would we bank on that happening, instead of taking the sure-thing?

Well, there's the thing. I guess I'm not quite as convinced in Marky being a sure thing for three years. Hopefully; seems a wee bit more traditional.
I said that to avoid calling Demko quirky.
None the less, I hope Thatcher develops more expeditiously because if he does, we'll be in a better spot; one way or another.

[Mickey107]

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From 1st to 5th in Each Division:
8:53 PM · Jan 14, 2020

Atlantic ... 17 pts
Metro ... 13 pts
Central ... 18 pts
Pacific ... 3 pts ...Canucks just need a little advantage. I think we have it...