We're All Doomed!™ (the Conquest, War, Famine, and Death Thread)

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Cornuck wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:04 pm What part of this isn't clear ?
TOPOS wrote:And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it'd be interesting to check that.
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It's a catheter Cornuck. The president was talking about injecting a catheter.

The part that isn't imediately clear is that Trump was referring to a presentation that a biotech researcher had just given into experimental UVA light therapy that his company was working on. They keep on taking down the video but I just re posted a version of the short promotional video via a twitter link for the third time :)
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Hockey Widow wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:11 pm I think Covid will become a fact of life like the flu or a cold. The one hope will be that when it does circulate again it won't overwhelm heath systems. The fact that people get sick and some die will be tolerated, like yearly flu deaths, as long as it doesn't overwhelm us again. Its the surge that wrecks havoc on supply. Once all the old and those with compromised health are dead we will be fine....oh shit, that means me!
Covid is a novel coronavirus. The coronavirus is the type of virus that causes the common cold. So yes, it will be a fact of life, and as our her immunity builds and this thing mutates.....like other coronaviruses we will see people get sick with this thing and have symptoms like the common cold and then recover.....oh wait.....that's exactly what's been happening by and large.

By labeling this stupid thing the way we have we've done nothing but foment fear and take yet another step backwards away from freedom and towards big government control, censorship, and a bright and shining dystopian tomorrow.
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Mëds wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:20 pm
Hockey Widow wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:11 pm I think Covid will become a fact of life like the flu or a cold. The one hope will be that when it does circulate again it won't overwhelm heath systems. The fact that people get sick and some die will be tolerated, like yearly flu deaths, as long as it doesn't overwhelm us again. Its the surge that wrecks havoc on supply. Once all the old and those with compromised health are dead we will be fine....oh shit, that means me!
Covid is a novel coronavirus. The coronavirus is the type of virus that causes the common cold. So yes, it will be a fact of life, and as our her immunity builds and this thing mutates.....like other coronaviruses we will see people get sick with this thing and have symptoms like the common cold and then recover.....oh wait.....that's exactly what's been happening by and large.

By labeling this stupid thing the way we have we've done nothing but foment fear and take yet another step backwards away from freedom and towards big government control, censorship, and a bright and shining dystopian tomorrow.
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Strangelove wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:17 am https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2003/2003.12444.pdf

Scientific proof hot whisky toddies (basically inhaling disinfectants) works against C19? :drink:

Also, vaccines are chock-full of the disinfectants Thimerosal and Forameldyde.
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People, people, they're not going to spend countless billions of dollars developing a vaccine if it's not feasible. Image
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Golly Gee, you don't suppose China has something to hide do ya? :wink:
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Mëds wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:20 pm By labeling this stupid thing the way we have we've done nothing but foment fear and take yet another step backwards away from freedom and towards big government control, censorship, and a bright and shining dystopian tomorrow.
So if the world carried on business as usual (not sure if that's what you're suggesting) - how overwhelmed would the hospitals be right now? Our county has zero cases so far (but then they've only tested 20 people). What would NYC look like right now?

As for "step backwards away from freedom and towards big government control, censorship, and a bright and shining dystopian tomorrow." - that came in with the 'Patriot Act' down here, so there will be no changes needed.
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Strangelove wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:47 pm People, people, they're not going to spend countless billions of dollars developing a vaccine if it's not feasible. Image
Have you bothered to look at the annual budget for our First Nation Treaties?
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Strangelove wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:42 pm
Strangelove wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:17 am https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2003/2003.12444.pdf

Scientific proof hot whisky toddies (basically inhaling disinfectants) works against C19? :drink:
Great post Strangelove!
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Megaterio Llamas wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:13 pm
Cornuck wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:04 pm What part of this isn't clear ?
TOPOS wrote:And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it'd be interesting to check that.
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It's a catheter Cornuck. The president was talking about injecting a catheter.
Catheters are inserted, not injected. And he didn't mention a catheter, did he?
Megaterio Llamas wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:13 pm The part that isn't imediately clear is that Trump was referring to a presentation that a biotech researcher had just given into experimental UVA light therapy that his company was working on. They keep on taking down the video but I just re posted a version of the short promotional video via a twitter link for the third time :)
AYTU Bioscience is a micro-cap biomed company that rose more than 44% today on the Nasdaq. Normally a promotional video would be posted on the company's own website. They put it on Youtube on purpose, knowing it would get taken down. There's an opinion piece on the WSJ by the CEO saying as much. I wouldn't be surprised if they are just trying to jack the stock price. And Youtube has their own motivations; anyone have a statement from them?
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5thhorseman wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:48 pm
Megaterio Llamas wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:13 pm
Cornuck wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:04 pm What part of this isn't clear ?
TOPOS wrote:And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it'd be interesting to check that.
:oops:
It's a catheter Cornuck. The president was talking about injecting a catheter.
Catheters are inserted, not injected. And he didn't mention a catheter, did he?
Megaterio Llamas wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:13 pm The part that isn't imediately clear is that Trump was referring to a presentation that a biotech researcher had just given into experimental UVA light therapy that his company was working on. They keep on taking down the video but I just re posted a version of the short promotional video via a twitter link for the third time :)
AYTU Bioscience is a micro-cap biomed company that rose more than 44% today on the Nasdaq. Normally a promotional video would be posted on the company's own website. They put it on Youtube on purpose, knowing it would get taken down. There's an opinion piece on the WSJ by the CEO saying as much. I wouldn't be surprised if they are just trying to jack the stock price. And Youtube has their own motivations; anyone have a statement from them?
I think he used deliberately vague language so the media would take the bait and he could point to the presentation that preceded his remarks later, continuing the game of gotcha he's been playing with the media for the past four years. Just a hunch.

And youtube takes stuff down every day. Issuing explanatory statements isn't exactly their style.
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Mëds wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:34 pm If we can't get herd immunity naturally, then a vaccine is biologically impossible and we will have to inject ourselves with nano-robotics.

And if we aren't building antibodies for this thing then we should see a revolving door of reinfections in healthcare workers.
Yeah, survivors of tetanus don't normally have immunity, yet we have a vaccine. There's so much more possible in a lab that a body's immune system cannot create. For example, some labs are taking the SARS virus and modifying it to stimulate the ideal immune response.

Sucks for you though :(
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Megaterio Llamas wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:59 pm
5thhorseman wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:48 pm
Megaterio Llamas wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:13 pm
Cornuck wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:04 pm What part of this isn't clear ?
TOPOS wrote:And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it'd be interesting to check that.
:oops:
It's a catheter Cornuck. The president was talking about injecting a catheter.
Catheters are inserted, not injected. And he didn't mention a catheter, did he?
Megaterio Llamas wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:13 pm The part that isn't imediately clear is that Trump was referring to a presentation that a biotech researcher had just given into experimental UVA light therapy that his company was working on. They keep on taking down the video but I just re posted a version of the short promotional video via a twitter link for the third time :)
AYTU Bioscience is a micro-cap biomed company that rose more than 44% today on the Nasdaq. Normally a promotional video would be posted on the company's own website. They put it on Youtube on purpose, knowing it would get taken down. There's an opinion piece on the WSJ by the CEO saying as much. I wouldn't be surprised if they are just trying to jack the stock price. And Youtube has their own motivations; anyone have a statement from them?
I think he used deliberately vague language so the media would take the bait and he could point to the presentation that preceded his remarks later, continuing the game of gotcha he's been playing with the media for the past four years. Just a hunch.

And youtube takes stuff down every day. Issuing explanatory statements isn't exactly their style.
So you think he's just baiting the media? To what end? To keep pushing his fake news narrative to deligitimise the MSM?
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5thhorseman wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:13 pm
Megaterio Llamas wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:59 pm
5thhorseman wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:48 pm
Megaterio Llamas wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:13 pm
Cornuck wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:04 pm What part of this isn't clear ?
TOPOS wrote:And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it'd be interesting to check that.
:oops:
It's a catheter Cornuck. The president was talking about injecting a catheter.
Catheters are inserted, not injected. And he didn't mention a catheter, did he?
Megaterio Llamas wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:13 pm The part that isn't imediately clear is that Trump was referring to a presentation that a biotech researcher had just given into experimental UVA light therapy that his company was working on. They keep on taking down the video but I just re posted a version of the short promotional video via a twitter link for the third time :)
AYTU Bioscience is a micro-cap biomed company that rose more than 44% today on the Nasdaq. Normally a promotional video would be posted on the company's own website. They put it on Youtube on purpose, knowing it would get taken down. There's an opinion piece on the WSJ by the CEO saying as much. I wouldn't be surprised if they are just trying to jack the stock price. And Youtube has their own motivations; anyone have a statement from them?
I think he used deliberately vague language so the media would take the bait and he could point to the presentation that preceded his remarks later, continuing the game of gotcha he's been playing with the media for the past four years. Just a hunch.

And youtube takes stuff down every day. Issuing explanatory statements isn't exactly their style.
So you think he's just baiting the media? To what end? To keep pushing his fake news narrative to deligitimise the MSM?
Yeah, that's my impression 5tthorseman, to come out later with full context and expose them again. I could be wrong. AYTU did get some nice bang from their exposure in this though, that's really interesting. I think youtube was indulging in partisan politics though, they do that sort of thing.
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Strangelove wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:37 pm
5thhorseman wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:16 pm They don't even know yet if we can get herd immunity, and no vaccine has ever been created for any of the coronaviruses (common cold, SARS, MERS).
But they do have a vaccine for measles, remember?

And Covid-19 mutates even more slowly than measles, remember?

Meanwhile seasonal flu mutates like a sonuvabitch, so no vaccine.

Also, the best minds in the world are working around the clock on this vaccine, remember?

Billion$$ being spent.

A vaccine WILL be created for C19, and it will be done in record time.
Ah yes but it's not all about rate of mutation. Its much more complex than that and money doesn't solve every problem. You think Big Pharma wouldn't make money off a vaccine for the common cold that would need to be boosted every 5 years?
Strangelove wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:37 pm I'd bet Gomer107's life on it.
How about Ruffles?
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