The Petey Predicament

[dbr]

Not nearly as well, and he is clearly (iirc) having the worst offensive season of anyone with his AAV or higher.

How many in that "AAV neighbourhood" play on the PK as well?

About half. The big difference in ice time among this group is that most get 15+ minutes of even strength ice time per game (and four of them are over 16) whereas Pettersson is under 13:30, next lowest is Marner at a little over 14.

[Cornuck]

Thanks,

[Lancer]

0.5 g/gm is not a rebound for an $11.6M player. It is a slump.

The stats don't really agree with this, there are more $11.6m+ forwards than there were 41+ goal scorers last year (10 vs 8).

And of those ten forwards just four of them are on track to score 41+ goals at this rate (all of whom make more than Petterson).

Yeah. That’s a good point…..I’ll have to look and see where he stacks up with them on PPG.

Not nearly as well, and he is clearly (iirc) having the worst offensive season of anyone with his AAV or higher.

And his poor assist numbers can’t be hung entirely on his shit linemates, at $11.6m he should be able to carry them at least a bit better than he has.

But, I think the offensive standard for his salary isn’t actually quite as high as one might expect.

I think consensus was established early-on that Petey could never carry a line - or, at least, not a top line. He needs someone else that teams have to respect to give him an option to give him time and space - or be the play-driver that allows him to slip into space to shoot or pass. Looking at him lately, he's deking nobody out of their skates anymore like he did earlier on.

He's not a #1 centre, and I don't think - with the dings and cracks he's accumulated over the years - he ever will be. Does that make him an overpaid #2 centre? Yup. Will it be a boat-anchor contract if he increases his production by just a smidge while contributing solid 2-way play? Likely not. It's not like he's reached OEL status... yet.

If management needs him as a #1 vice #2 centre, just trade him and get what you can - but that's more a matter of addition by subtraction vice trying to get fair value for him. Or you just accept that he can be a #1 on a shit team, but nothing more than a skilled, non-physical #2/3 centre whose career will be defined as a placeholder for the real top-2 centre for a competitive team.

Otherwise he's... well... he exists... on our team... like it or not. Sad that he's the most skilled player on the team, but that's a big reason why the team is in the basement. That's why he'll likely be remembered by fans in the same vein as Petr Nedved: high draft pick head case who had more potential than was ever realized in Vancouver.

[Meds]

Nedved wasn’t really a head case like this.

He got Irish’d in negotiations.

Petey was offered very fair compensation and snubbed it.

When a player says that $27K a day for 8 years is not enough, and then gets $32K a day by holding out, he needs to earn it.

Bad decision by ownership/management to give in, but the player definitely wears his share.

[donlever]

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[Cousin Strawberry]

Ha wtf is that

[Topper]

Socials saying Canucks need to retain 25% for the market to light up.

25% of $11.6M = $2.9M

$11.6M - $2.9M = $8.7M

The market speaks on Scooters value.

Dipshits

[JelloPuddingPop]

Socials saying Canucks need to retain 25% for the market to light up.

25% of $11.6M = $2.9M

$11.6M - $2.9M = $8.7M

The market speaks on Scooters value.

Dipshits

And by the "market" you mean Socials?

[Madcombinepilot]

Socials saying Canucks need to retain 25% for the market to light up.

25% of $11.6M = $2.9M

$11.6M - $2.9M = $8.7M

The market speaks on Scooters value.

Dipshits

They better not retain on any contract that is more than 2 years in length.

[dbr]

I wouldn't worry about any of it, we're talking about what online aggregators have produced (Canucks will have to retain to get value in these trades we keep hearing about!) after gobbling up what Frank Seravalli shat out (my crystal ball says teams are growing suspicious that Petterson may be traded). Not exactly high quality info

[Meds]

Socials saying Canucks need to retain 25% for the market to light up.

25% of $11.6M = $2.9M

$11.6M - $2.9M = $8.7M

The market speaks on Scooters value.

Dipshits

They better not retain on any contract that is more than 2 years in length.

3 years. Think length of an ELC. I like shorter myself, but 3 is a workable term.

[Megaterio Llamas]

Apparently, Peter is due a whopping $10 million payout this summer under that ridiculous contract. Once Mr Aquilini pays out on that, things might begin to unclog.

Peter bent these guys over a barrel, and now they find themselves in a pickle.

[dbr]

I thought those were payable at the beginning of the year a not at the end, in which case we paid him $12m on July 1 2024 and $10m on July 1 2025.

His base salary is $11m this upcoming season, $9.45m the year after and just $3.7m in the final three years so franchises with internal budgets would probably find him very appealing as of the summer of 2028 - four years left on his deal and about (edit: I was way off here, it’s $38m) in real money owed.

[Megaterio Llamas]

I thought those were payable at the beginning of the year a not at the end, in which case we paid him $12m on July 1 2024 and $10m on July 1 2025.

His base salary is $11m this upcoming season, $9.45m the year after and just $3.7m in the final three years so franchises with internal budgets would probably find him very appealing as of the summer of 2028 - four years left on his deal and about $18m in real money owed.

Ah, interesting. I guess what I was reading was BS then.

Sorry folks.

[Megaterio Llamas]

Ooh, sexy