Canucks News N Notes 25-26

[dangler]

If the rumoured trade of Necas + 1st for EP40 was true, and the subsequent rumours that it was Aqua who nixed it are also true, then this entire mess is on ownership. The team looked very good from the time Tocchet took over in 2023 right through the 23-24 season, and they were still a good team even with Pettersson phoning it in.

The major faults that are on JR/PA?

Demko's extension
Lankinen's extension and trading Silovs
M. Pettersson's extension
Betting on Chytil

+ letting Suter walk & signing Kane instead
You and your "ifs" again

[Hockey Widow]

Well according to Jim there was a miscommunication with Suter and the number of years the Canucks were willing to give him. As if this is an excuse right. Why was it not communicated to him well before July 1st? At least now he wants to trade all the UFA so they do t walk. But I like Sherwood.

[Meds]

If the rumoured trade of Necas + 1st for EP40 was true, and the subsequent rumours that it was Aqua who nixed it are also true, then this entire mess is on ownership. The team looked very good from the time Tocchet took over in 2023 right through the 23-24 season, and they were still a good team even with Pettersson phoning it in.

The major faults that are on JR/PA?

Demko's extension
Lankinen's extension and trading Silovs
M. Pettersson's extension
Betting on Chytil

+ letting Suter walk & signing Kane instead
You and your "ifs" again

Yeah, the Suter thing was a head scratcher knowing what we know now.

[Todd Bersnoozi]

A decent amount of Roslovic discussion around these parts ranging from (as I recall) positive (Snoozi) to hard nos (Dude).

Stats thus far in Edmonton as tweeted by Paterson this AM...

https://x.com/patersonjeff/status/19897 ... jBxlw&s=19

Yah, mgmt should have taken advantage of this guy. He was farting around there and anyone could have snagged him up at a bargain. If u want to compete for a playoff spot, u need depth in all positions, especially important one @ centre-ice. Betting on Chytil to stay healthy to anchor the 2C was a pipe dream; they should have planned to have a backup in place and Roslovic was perfect @ that price point.

Sure, Roslovic's numbers are inflated playing with the Dynamic Duo and sure, he's not the most responsible 2-way player, but he's a NHL player who has played centre before and is a pretty consistent 40 pt guy who can push around 20 goals. Yah, he probably wouldn't produce what he's doing with the Oil over here, but he's way better than all our other options that we currently have @ C after EP40. Think of it this way, right now we basically have a $5M winger (Kane) and a $7M winger (Brock) playing with a career 4th liner, $1M centre (Kampf) or an unproven/inexperienced winger trying to play centre (L.Reichel). It's a freakin joke.

Roslovic's situation are the types that any team should want to take advantage of. He's in his prime, a proven NHLer and got kinda left out in the cold due to a numbers' crunch. He's basically in another contract year and will be an extremely motivated/hungry player that desires to prove himself once again. Basically kinda like Lankinen last season. Lankinen was great to have last season at that salary; now after he signed that big deal, not so much. He was definitely better last season when he was playing motivated and hungry. Unfortunately after he got his meal ticket, u can notice a difference. Psychology 101.

[Hockey Widow]

Roslovic had a say in where he went. Maybe he didn't want to come to Vancouver. Maybe he signed on the cheap in hopes of being in the playoffs and winning a cup. At the cap hit he came in at I would think the Canucks would have been all over that but he may not have been interested. Don't know, just saying.

[Tciso]

Roslovic is also not known for his defensive skills. We have enough problems on defense that we don't need another defensive liability. Edmonton thrives on bad defense.

If we are healthy, I believe we are solidly a playoff team that needs it's youth to mature a bit, and a 2nd line center. Please, we don't need a fire sale just yet.

[Meds]

Roslovic is also not known for his defensive skills. We have enough problems on defense that we don't need another defensive liability. Edmonton thrives on bad defense.

If we are healthy, I believe we are solidly a playoff team that needs it's youth to mature a bit, and a 2nd line center. Please, we don't need a fire sale just yet.

The mushy middle comprises teams from 13-20. Half of them don’t make the playoffs.

[Todd Bersnoozi]

Roslovic had a say in where he went. Maybe he didn't want to come to Vancouver.

Yah, maybe. But that's when u step up the game to woo him. Tell him as long as he's working hard, he'll get regular middle 6 minutes and highly probable he'll get top 6 minutes with Chytil's injury history. He'll get a chance to play with our top wingers (ie: Brock, Garly, Debrusk). He'll be regular on PP2 and maybe some PP1. Tell him what he wants to hear, he'll get tons of chances to showcase himself, so that he can get that jackpot contract that he's looking for. Heck, sweeten the pot if u have to. He's only making $1.5M there, offer him $2M. I would have even went to $2.5M with him. The art of negotiating a deal.

Some fans are saying we should have kept P.Suter. Roslovic is basically a Suter calibre player @ half the cap hit!

If we are healthy, I believe we are solidly a playoff team that needs it's youth to mature a bit, and a 2nd line center. Please, we don't need a fire sale just yet.

That's the thing, if the Nucks really wanted to make the playoffs (and it's pretty clear they intended @ start of season), they should know they need depth at every position, especially important one @ centre ice. Hoping that Chytil would stay healthy was a fool's dream and Rollovic would have been a great backup. Sure, he's not the best defensive forward, that's why u have guys like Blueger/Kampf.

Oh well, guess it's doesn't matter now. What's done is done. Missing the playoffs again and hoping to get a good draft pick is probably the best for the long-term future of this club anyways.

[5thhorseman]

Some chick on 650 radio used the term "mushy middle" today.

[Carl Yagro]

Wids?

Or is one of youse calling in and pretending to be a chick?

[5thhorseman]

No, one of the talking heads, ie a CC lurker.

[donlever]

We're sure she was talking hockey?

[Carl Yagro]

They've stolen so much from this place.

We're just too awesome.

[Hockey Widow]

Wids?

Or is one of youse calling in and pretending to be a chick?

Not me. Maybe one of the forums trannies?

[Hockey Widow]

Seravalli's take on Hughes situation, from Hockey Writers:

"According to Seravalli the people closest to Hughes repeat the same line: Quinn has told them, directly and without ceremony, that he is “100% committed” to the Canucks. If he has doubts, he isn’t voicing them in the circles that usually leak those sorts of things. There’s no back-channel smoke, no whispered exit plan."

"Hughes believes in what he started. It looks as if he’s going to stay and see it through."

"The complication, Seravalli points out, comes not from the player but from the team’s own posture. Jim Rutherford’s recent comments, which sounded more open-ended than anyone expected, left fans wondering whether the organization itself is uncertain about its direction. In those moments, speculation fills the gaps. In Vancouver, where hockey talk flows like rain, that speculation turns into a narrative before anyone realizes it."

"Hughes believes the Canucks can be better than what they’ve shown. He thinks the worst moments of this season were due to problematic circumstances rather than a flawed structure. And he believes he has a responsibility (and the ability) to help turn it around."

"Hughes is not a player looking for the exit......For Hughes, it’s this: the door isn’t closing. His story in Vancouver isn’t finished. And he still wants to be the one who leads in the writing of the next chapter."


So everybody happy now? July 1st can't come quick enough. Of course if we start trading away players like Sherwood and Garland things may change. Lets face it, neither of them will bring us back what we need.