AROUND THE LEAGUE - 25-26

[Tciso]

Roslovic isn't a centre but he can play there in a pinch.

I still think Cole Slllinger may end up here. I also want to see more of Raty and I hope they give him a punchers chance to succeed.

I agree on Raty. He's likely a #3C, with the potential to peak as a mid level #2C for a couple of years, before Cooter makes him expendable.

[Tciso]

I'd offer him $3x3. That fits our budget (we need a little cap to bring up the farm kids) and doesn't hurt too much if he underperforms. And, if he shines.....we win for 3 years.

[Chef Boi RD]

Roslovic isn't a centre but he can play there in a pinch.

I still think Cole Slllinger may end up here. I also want to see more of Raty and I hope they give him a punchers chance to succeed.

You think Sillinger has another gear or are you hoping he grows a pornstache like his old man in a Canucks uni? I’m not sure of what to make of Cole. Maybe not a bad idea as I imagine his price wouldn’t be as crazy like Guerin’s ask on that Midget Rossi.

I have zero interest in Roslovic. I’d rather be patient on Chytil and Raty, I’m tired of the depletion of our pipeline. The clowns need to put the brakes on dealing picks, if Raty and Chytil are dropping the ball then make a move around December.

[Hockey Widow]

Roslovic isn't a centre but he can play there in a pinch.

I still think Cole Slllinger may end up here. I also want to see more of Raty and I hope they give him a punchers chance to succeed.

You think Sillinger has another gear or are you hoping he grows a pornstache like his old man in a Canucks uni? I’m not sure of what to make of Cole. Maybe not a bad idea as I imagine his price wouldn’t be as crazy like Guerin’s ask on that Midget Rossi.

I have zero interest in Roslovic. I’d rather be patient on Chytil and Raty, I’m tired of the depletion of our pipeline. The clowns need to put the brakes on dealing picks, if Raty and Chytil are dropping the ball then make a move around December.

In the absence of a home run, I agree with Dude. A little patience is warranted here. We don't know how Demko and Pettersson will bounce back yet. Give Raty some time. Give Chytle some time. Lets see how Kane fits. Let some of the kids see if they can fill roles.

[Meds]

Pettersson is where the franchise succeeds or fails. If he returns to form as a top 10 center with Selke candidate defensive play while kicking in 30/50 on the stat sheet, we could once again surprise and challenge for a pacific division title. (If that seems too far fetched please see how we started 23 months ago....and no JTM wasn't the only reason they played at that level)

JT and EP were 50/50 on why we started the way we did 2 seasons ago. EP was 100% of why we slowed down in the finish of that year and 80% of why we ultimately lost to the Oilers (Demko was the other 20% dere).

JT and EP were 50/50 on why we started the we did last season. EP's failure to rebound after Miller's departure is all on EP.

So it is far-fetched? No. Having Pettersson plug at 1.0ppg while providing "Selke" calibre play would definitely be a difference maker. If he does that AND Raty and Chytil can give us 50 point second line production.....then sure, totally possible.

[Madcombinepilot]

Roslovic isn't a centre but he can play there in a pinch.

I still think Cole Slllinger may end up here. I also want to see more of Raty and I hope they give him a punchers chance to succeed.

You think Sillinger has another gear or are you hoping he grows a pornstache like his old man in a Canucks uni? I’m not sure of what to make of Cole. Maybe not a bad idea as I imagine his price wouldn’t be as crazy like Guerin’s ask on that Midget Rossi.

I have zero interest in Roslovic. I’d rather be patient on Chytil and Raty, I’m tired of the depletion of our pipeline. The clowns need to put the brakes on dealing picks, if Raty and Chytil are dropping the ball then make a move around December.

In the absence of a home run, I agree with Dude. A little patience is warranted here. We don't know how Demko and Pettersson will bounce back yet. Give Raty some time. Give Chytle some time. Lets see how Kane fits. Let some of the kids see if they can fill roles.

Patience yes. There are a few teams over the cap that will be looking for dumps end of August.. could be a bargain there if they wait.

[Megaterio Llamas]

Roger McQueen has committed to Providence College.


https://neutralzone.com/player/roger-mcqueen-48353/

[Chef Boi RD]

Roger McQueen has committed to Providence College.


https://neutralzone.com/player/roger-mcqueen-48353/

The new era happened over night, quicker than quick draw McGraw or Doyle and his pizza stained shirt sleeves drinking a glass wine with his Sam Remo’s, a wine that should be savoured and not shot like tequila.

[Blob Mckenzie]

Roslovic isn't a centre but he can play there in a pinch.

I still think Cole Slllinger may end up here. I also want to see more of Raty and I hope they give him a punchers chance to succeed.

You think Sillinger has another gear or are you hoping he grows a pornstache like his old man in a Canucks uni? I’m not sure of what to make of Cole. Maybe not a bad idea as I imagine his price wouldn’t be as crazy like Guerin’s ask on that Midget Rossi.

I have zero interest in Roslovic. I’d rather be patient on Chytil and Raty, I’m tired of the depletion of our pipeline. The clowns need to put the brakes on dealing picks, if Raty and Chytil are dropping the ball then make a move around December.

The pipeline hasn't had his much depth since Quinn and Penny were here. It took a while to clean up the huge mess that Lennie Small left. OEL Lennie's crowning achievment.

[Chef Boi RD]

The 6 years of drafting by the Players Agent - Sir Michael Gillis will go down as some of the best pipeline stocking we’ve seen since ole Jake The Snake Milford…yeah, no. Certainly had nothing to do with what we’ve seen since Nonis was gassed.

In 3 seasons 2004-2007. 4 drafts, Nonis drafted:

2004 - Schneider - 26th OA
2004 - Edler - 91st OA
2004 - Mike Brown - 159th OA
2004 - Jannik Hansen - 287th OA

Nonis did better in one draft (2004) than Gillis managed in 6 drafts. Disgusting. And with not a pick higher than the 26th overall.

2005 - Luc Bourdon - 10th OA
2005 - Mason Raymond - 51st OA

2006 - Michael Grabner - 14th OA

2007 wasn’t a good class for Nonis but what followed after Nonis was let go, the following 6 years? We witnessed an absolute decimation of the pipeline, setting the organization back decades. Absolutely dreadful.

We have to remember it was Nonis who acquired the greatest goaltender (Luongo) in Canuck history, an asset ole baggy eyes used to acquire Markstrom. My god did the previous GM’s set up Gillis mightily!

Even though Nonis picks White and Rahimi were duds they were the right kind of assets for the Players Agent to land Erhoff.

It was also with the Nonis pick - Corey Schneider used to land Horvat which landed us Hronek. The pick is still paying dividends

I recall with acute memory how Gillis traded two start no. 1 goalies back to back with no back up plan. Hence, Elmer having to ink Miller to make up for the disaster.

[JelloPuddingPop]

G. Gallant to coach in the KHL this year, for the Shanghai franchise.

I was on the list as hoping Van would bring him in, wonder why he didn't get another shot in the NHL with so many vacancies. Too much of the much talked about "one trick pony" for NHL teams now? Wallflowers like Petey can't be coached like that anymore?

Its all, "here is your hot milk on the bench - you take this shift off kid. You participated with your very best self there."

I'd like to see more Gallants, Carlyles and Burns, and less Keefes, Brunettes and Boudreaus...

[2Fingers]

I want a coach who uses the strength of the players they have and not try to change them to fit a style that will end up failing.

Not saying you can’t hold players accountable.

[Lancer]

I want a coach who uses the strength of the players they have and not try to change them to fit a style that will end up failing.

Not saying you can’t hold players accountable.

Holding players accountable is apples and oranges from entrenching a one-size-fits-all playing style or system.

Any coach will establish non-negotiable habits, off-ice routines or whatever from their players - whether it be physicality, discipline or even body language. Those would apply whether the coach is employing a dump-and-chase offense, has them collapsing to the net on defence, or using a variation of the neutral zone trap.

You look at Berube in Toronto and could argue that the Leaves played a more successful style of play - if only they had a blueline and goalie. Even Knoblauch seems to have succeeded in getting the Coilers to play more responsibly while their two stars haven't suffered statistically. It's possible to rein in your stallions and get them all moving in a direction that plays to their strengths - and still fall short.

Coaching will only do so much. If the roster can't succeed, even in a system designed by the coach to play to their strengths with buy-in from the players, then it's the roster's (and management's) fault.

The 23-24 season showed that the team could succeed with Tocchet's system. Even with Demko out and Petey not playing nearly 100%, they still took Edmonton to 7 games in the 2nd round. The problem is that last season showed his system isn't resilient enough to succeed unless everything went right. As soon as his top-2 centres decided to implode and his starting goalie was gone to injury, the cracks rapidly started to show and Tocchet evidently had no effective answer. Shit happens with any team, and Vancouver was as snakebit as any team last season, but ultimately Tocchet couldn't compensate. Whether you want to point the finger at the players, management or the coaches, you can't deny that once things went sideways there wasn't much visible adaptation to that reality by Tocchet and crew.

Hopefully Foote has learned from that experience. I'll be interested to see how he has the players playing out there, and how the players take to it. Not anticipating anything dramatic, but hopefully Foote doesn't just run back the same playbook as last year.

[Hockey Widow]

"Holding players accountable is apples and oranges from entrenching a one-size-fits-all playing style or system."


This to me is a key. I can never understand a coach who has a hard on for certain players yet can never put them in a position to succeed. Podkolzin never got a good chance with us. This after JT sung his praises and said he loved having him on his line. Kuzmenko was a great fit for Petey yet they tried to beat him into submission. Hell the same can be said of Tryamkin. They wanted him to be Pronger. For some reason some players just end up in the dog house. In the end we get nothing for Tryamkin, a fourth for Podkolzin and cap relief for Kuzmenko which we needed because we brought back Lindholm in the trade, who we lost for nothing.

But at the end of the day none of these players will make or break any Cup intentions.

[Cornuck]

But at the end of the day none of these players will make or break any Cup intentions.

I wonder if being Russian has anything to do with it? Or the coach's ability to reach them?