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theman wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 4:11 pm If I were the Canucks, I am keeping Willander unless he is bringing back a true 1C in a trade.
Yeah. That's the only reason to trade him.

This nonsense about getting a top-6 center is ridiculous. The team needs a 1C.
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They have a # 1 centre. Call him 1A or 1B but he averaged 95 points a season the two previous years before he had a miserable year last year. We need a high end young centre 20-24 years old.
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He put up 102 and then 89 points.

In the other 5 seasons he averaged below 1.0 ppg.

If we are trading Willander we are looking for a 1C that pushes Pettersson into the 2nd line role.....even though it will make him ridiculously overpaid.
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I think people might be overestimating Willander's value a little.

I think I'd rather hold onto him at least for now. I don't see the return knocking my socks off.
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Megaterio Llamas wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 7:11 pm I think people might be overestimating Willander's value a little.

I think I'd rather hold onto him at least for now. I don't see the return knocking my socks off.
Exactly, him and a 1st isn’t getting you even a legit #2 at the right age.
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I think you could get a Cozens type player in a Cozens type situation using Willander and a pick as your bait.
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Drysdale got you Cutter Gauthier and Willander is a better player than Drysdale and Gauthier was one of the games top prospects at the time of the trade. A right shot d-man of Willanders calibre definitely has more value than you might imagine. He’s NHL ready now.
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Megaterio Llamas wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 7:11 pm I think people might be overestimating Willander's value a little.

I think I'd rather hold onto him at least for now. I don't see the return knocking my socks off.
I agree on the return. He is worth more than we would get back. Anyways, we need him just as much as we need another center, both in terms of skills and cap hits.
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It’s taken the Canucks so long to finally looked to have fixed RHD, it’d be hard to see them give up on Willander and watch him succeed elsewhere. They need to find a way to improve the forwards without weakening the defence and goalies. Hard to do, yes, but not impossible. That’s how good managements earns their big bucks. Any idiot could trade Willander for an under preforming centre they hope will blossom in Vancouver.
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Picker of Cherries wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 7:41 am It’s taken the Canucks so long to finally looked to have fixed RHD, it’d be hard to see them give up on Willander and watch him succeed elsewhere. They need to find a way to improve the forwards without weakening the defence and goalies. Hard to do, yes, but not impossible. That’s how good managements earns their big bucks. Any idiot could trade Willander for an under preforming centre they hope will blossom in Vancouver.
IMO, numbers are going to be a key consideration. While a spot in the top-6 next season is by no means reserved for him, given his pedigree and development to-date, it's a safe bet to assume that Willander should be ready for the NHL vice AHL. Are management and the coaching staff ready to roll out a 3rd pairing of D-Petey and Willander next season?

If you're Willander and you see a stacked top-4 with little hope of cracking it in the near future, why wouldn't you consider playing out your NCAA career and sign as a UFA? Is he willing to bet and wait on management giving Myers the heave-ho in two years' time? Management's hands may get forced a bit if Willander decides not to sign this summer.

All other things being equal, prospects with Willander's position, pedigree and demonstrated development don't get traded. I wager Allvin and Co. see Willander as taking Myers' spot down the road, and have communicated such to Willander and/or his agent. I'm also pretty sure they would like to get their 2C and still keep Willander. I just don't see the trade capital available to management as being enough to get that contender-calibre 2C without likely trading Willander.
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donlever wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 9:34 pm I think you could get a Cozens type player in a Cozens type situation using Willander and a pick as your bait.
Almost certainly.

Cozens was a “reclamation project” of sorts coming out of Buffalo.

I don’t know that I want to spend Willander AND our 1st on a reclamation project though…..I mean, if we stick with EP40 we already have our own in-house reclamation project for next season.

I would prefer to shop Demko and our 1st to see if there’s something out there…..like McTavish (just an example). He’s been steadily progressing, 22 years old, showing signs that he could be a 1C (though I think not anything more than an 82 point guy), and not what I would consider a reclamation project.
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Didn't say anything about a first.

Others might have.

Not me.
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Lancer wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 10:33 am IMO, numbers are going to be a key consideration. While a spot in the top-6 next season is by no means reserved for him, given his pedigree and development to-date, it's a safe bet to assume that Willander should be ready for the NHL vice AHL. Are management and the coaching staff ready to roll out a 3rd pairing of D-Petey and Willander next season?

If you're Willander and you see a stacked top-4 with little hope of cracking it in the near future, why wouldn't you consider playing out your NCAA career and sign as a UFA? Is he willing to bet and wait on management giving Myers the heave-ho in two years' time? Management's hands may get forced a bit if Willander decides not to sign this summer.

All other things being equal, prospects with Willander's position, pedigree and demonstrated development don't get traded. I wager Allvin and Co. see Willander as taking Myers' spot down the road, and have communicated such to Willander and/or his agent. I'm also pretty sure they would like to get their 2C and still keep Willander. I just don't see the trade capital available to management as being enough to get that contender-calibre 2C without likely trading Willander.
That’s a good take Lancer.

One thing I’ll add is that with the increasing cap, I could see our 2nd pair being D-Petey and Willander in a couple of seasons with Meaty becoming the $5.5M #5. Hronek, DPetey, Willander, and Meaty, would all probably be getting 20 min per night and the blueline would be exceptionally deep and balanced.

Hughes - Hronek
DPetey - Willander
MPetey - Mancini

That could be what we’re looking at as early as October 2026.

We shouldn’t count our chickens too soon tho. Willander could also pull a Daigle.
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donlever wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 1:51 pm Didn't say anything about a first.

Others might have.

Not me.
True story.

I was one of the people that floated the combination of Willander and the pick.

My reply to you was more to the point of Cozens and reclamation…..not that you said anything about reclamation projects, your mention of Cozens just started me thinking along those lines.
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Or a Bourdon.

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