Just Not ready

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Megaterio Llamas wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:05 am
BCExpat wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:01 am
Topper wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 10:42 am Canadian Press rakes him over the coals on Reconciliation and he fumbles badly standing in Indigenous/Metis strong hold Manitoba. No 1st Nations announcements or meetings scheduled.

That's a Pow and a Wow in Batman TV.

https://x.com/CanadianOilExec/status/19 ... 7131409562

Who is running this show?

Now Alberta Premier Smith is saying that Carney acknowledge to her less than 2 weeks ago, that the No More Pipelines" C-69 was a major impediment to resource development. Today he says C-69 stays in place.
And yet this guy is ahead in the polls. It just doesn't make any sense, other than it indicates that 41% of (mostly eastern) Canadians are stupid.
Or that the polls are fake news. I stopped paying attention to them years ago.
You are correct - just look at what the polls in the US were saying about Kamala. Also, I think they will change as we get farther into the campaign - especially once PP gets Carney in a debate.
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Carney received more of a bump than I expected but the air is coming out of that bubble more and more as the campaign goes. Nine days in and the generic platitudes and undefined programs are starting to run out as the Conservatives begin with more detailed measures and the similarities to the Trudeau programs of Carney's offering comes to light.

I'm looking forward to the debates where Carney will be one on one to show what he has. To date his public performances are very weak and riddled with error.

Pierre has been shoring up his base but hasn't yet spent much time in the GTA, that will be interesting when he spends more time there.

As for polls, recall the BC Clark/Dix election and US Trump/Hillary.
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BCExpat wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:01 am
Topper wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 10:42 am Canadian Press rakes him over the coals on Reconciliation and he fumbles badly standing in Indigenous/Metis strong hold Manitoba. No 1st Nations announcements or meetings scheduled.

That's a Pow and a Wow in Batman TV.

https://x.com/CanadianOilExec/status/19 ... 7131409562

Who is running this show?

Now Alberta Premier Smith is saying that Carney acknowledge to her less than 2 weeks ago, that the No More Pipelines" C-69 was a major impediment to resource development. Today he says C-69 stays in place.
And yet this guy is ahead in the polls. It just doesn't make any sense, other than it indicates that 41% of (mostly eastern) Canadians are stupid.
Just a couple of things (is that his catch phrase?) He "Um"s even more than JT did when he answers unscripted questions.
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Topper wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 2:28 pm This is what Carney defended.

https://x.com/RebelNewsOnline/status/19 ... 0269576622
And to think that if Poilievre would just have gotten his security clearance, this could have been prevented
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https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/ ... -to-quebec

I would have never thought that Alberta and Quebec would agree on anything, but it seems they do have a lot of common ground when it comes to provincial powers and jurisdiction. Making the provinces more autonomous would go a long way to curbing some of the federal (liberal) policies that are not in Alberta's or Quebec's interests.
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BCExpat wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 3:11 pm https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/ ... -to-quebec

I would have never thought that Alberta and Quebec would agree on anything, but it seems they do have a lot of common ground when it comes to provincial powers and jurisdiction. Making the provinces more autonomous would go a long way to curbing some of the federal (liberal) policies that are not in Alberta's or Quebec's interests.
It cuts both ways. Provincial autonomy has led to trade barriers between provinces which aren't we trying to get rid of now to make our country stronger?
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5thhorseman wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 4:42 pm
BCExpat wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 3:11 pm https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/ ... -to-quebec

I would have never thought that Alberta and Quebec would agree on anything, but it seems they do have a lot of common ground when it comes to provincial powers and jurisdiction. Making the provinces more autonomous would go a long way to curbing some of the federal (liberal) policies that are not in Alberta's or Quebec's interests.
It cuts both ways. Provincial autonomy has led to trade barriers between provinces which aren't we trying to get rid of now to make our country stronger?
Not if it gives Ottawa more power and jurisdiction.
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5thhorseman wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 4:42 pm
BCExpat wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 3:11 pm https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/ ... -to-quebec

I would have never thought that Alberta and Quebec would agree on anything, but it seems they do have a lot of common ground when it comes to provincial powers and jurisdiction. Making the provinces more autonomous would go a long way to curbing some of the federal (liberal) policies that are not in Alberta's or Quebec's interests.
It cuts both ways. Provincial autonomy has led to trade barriers between provinces which aren't we trying to get rid of now to make our country stronger?
In the case of Alberta at least, I would rather have more autonomy. We don't need anti-oil politicians who's support base is in eastern Canada, to be deciding what we can and can't do with our Oil.
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BCExpat wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 6:14 pm
5thhorseman wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 4:42 pm
BCExpat wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 3:11 pm https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/ ... -to-quebec

I would have never thought that Alberta and Quebec would agree on anything, but it seems they do have a lot of common ground when it comes to provincial powers and jurisdiction. Making the provinces more autonomous would go a long way to curbing some of the federal (liberal) policies that are not in Alberta's or Quebec's interests.
It cuts both ways. Provincial autonomy has led to trade barriers between provinces which aren't we trying to get rid of now to make our country stronger?
In the case of Alberta at least, I would rather have more autonomy. We don't need anti-oil politicians who's support base is in eastern Canada, to be deciding what we can and can't do with our Oil.
Autonomous provinces can say no to pipelines, in effect saying what you can and can't do with your oil.
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A big barrier to inter Provincial trade is regulation in each Province. Something a simple as trucking.

Who licenses the trucks? Is my crane certification valid in another Province? What a road weight regs and permits for each Province? Look at the infamous trucking outfit that has been clipping over passes with overheight loads in the Fraser Valley. They have been shut down in BC, but the same owners run an Alberta company so they have continued dinging over passes with their wildrose trucks.

For construction, building codes vary between Provinces.

An Engineer licensed to practice in BC, require an addition License to practice in Ontario.

Medical records are not shared between Provinces. A worker from Quebec if injured on a BC jobsite, the BC Dr cannot readily get the worker's medical records from Quebec. I have first hand experience with this one.

Each of these regulators has their turf staked out and is very protective of their jurisdiction and none of the Provinces, understandably, wish for Federal intervention.

It is not as simple as just opening up inter Provincial wine and beer sales.
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5thhorseman wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 7:40 pm Autonomous provinces can say no to pipelines, in effect saying what you can and can't do with your oil.
Probably why Carney has been careful about pipelines going east but opening up the Port of Churchill to tankers.
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Carney and PP will both be puppets of the Orange Scumbag. House will be sold this spring. Was going to happen anyways, but Zihaut is looking a lot better to me than Kamloops right now. North America is going to be a cesspool for the next four years.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 10:42 am Carney and PP will both be puppets of the Orange Scumbag. House will be sold this spring. Was going to happen anyways, but Zihaut is looking a lot better to me than Kamloops right now. North America is going to be a cesspool for the next four years.
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5thhorseman wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 7:40 pm
BCExpat wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 6:14 pm
5thhorseman wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 4:42 pm
BCExpat wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 3:11 pm https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/ ... -to-quebec

I would have never thought that Alberta and Quebec would agree on anything, but it seems they do have a lot of common ground when it comes to provincial powers and jurisdiction. Making the provinces more autonomous would go a long way to curbing some of the federal (liberal) policies that are not in Alberta's or Quebec's interests.
It cuts both ways. Provincial autonomy has led to trade barriers between provinces which aren't we trying to get rid of now to make our country stronger?
In the case of Alberta at least, I would rather have more autonomy. We don't need anti-oil politicians who's support base is in eastern Canada, to be deciding what we can and can't do with our Oil.
Autonomous provinces can say no to pipelines, in effect saying what you can and can't do with your oil.

Our laws are so messed up and convoluted, I don't think anyone is an authority on where all the differenct levels of responsibility really reside. Federal, provincial, municipal jurisdictions and First Nations. All have input, but who actually has the authority??? Until Canada can figure out who really should be responsible, every decision has to be a watered down consensus pile of shit that survives a Supreme Court challenge. That's both for pipelines, and for inter-provincial trade barriers. Good luck boys!
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