Just Not ready

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rikster wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 5:00 pm
Mëds wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:53 pm
rikster wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 8:02 am The Globe ran an opinion piece on the state of the Conservative Party under the headline;

The Conservatives have had the rug pulled out from under them


Its behind a paywall ...https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politic ... nder-them/

It talks about how their once insurmountable lead is now down to single digits and in some polls trailing the Liberals who might end up with a majority government...

PP and the Conservatives were all about attacking JT's record and policies like carbon tax and that Canada is broken which played well until Trump came along and JT resigned...
Like a dog chasing a bus who suddenly finds it idling at a stoplight, Mr. Poilievre and his party have gotten what they wanted – so now what?

You could see them struggling with this in real time this week – stuck in a gear that no longer made sense, but unable to find another way to move forward.

Conservative MPs held four separate press conferences, trying to seize some attention, frame the Liberal debates and most of all, find a way to define and defile Mr. Carney already.
The article ends with this thought ...
Somewhere in the world, there must be a language that has a word for the wistfulness you feel for the enemy you wish you were still fighting.
Many of the attack ads no longer include PP but rather the likes of Andrew Sheer who like PP is a lifer politician and someone the Party kicked out as leader after his disasterous bid to become Prime Minister...

That in a nutshell is the problem with the Conservatives...they could get away on attacking a disliked JT and beating up on his record and policies which was another way of hiding the fact that their leader is just as flawed and in some ways has a worse record while never being in a governing position...

They can't tell us why PP is a better choice than Carney because he simply isn't so they are desperate to somehow majically make Carney the boogey man....

Long term my concern is why aren't a Carney and a Bayliss Conservatives? What has happened to the Party that it puts out the likes of Sheer and PP as its leaders?

Lifer politicians with next to zero experience running anything....
Maybe because Carney and Bayliss are WEF shills? Elites who recognize that the Conservative Party represents the part of Canada that doesn’t want globalization under a hegemony of elitists.

Carney with the Conservative Party, and holding either their ideals, I’d vote for him based upon education and experience. But he is running for leadership of the Liberals, and he’s hand in glove with the same group of people that have been making policy that has ruined this country…..he’s been advising them and amongst them all along.
I don't look at it that way, I've always taught my kids to look at the person and not the Party...

And if you look over Carney's career it has been in the sevice of both the Liberal and the Conservative Parties...

The Conservatives are trying another attack ad against Carney, this one accusing him of overstating his involvment in the 2008 financial crisis...

The reality was that Carney and Flaherity while working together became close friends and Flaheritys former chief of staff has come to Carneys defence in a tweet;

https://x.com/MarkGerretsen/status/1896 ... 57/photo/1

Flaherty and Carney were a dynamic duo, arguably the best in Canadian history...

https://financialpost.com/news/economy/ ... e-minister
What you taught your kids was applicable 20 years ago. It is not today. If you were paying attention you would have seen that the individual politicians vote the party line in the house and don’t actually represent the constituency. You now have to vote for the party and platform. I wish it were different.
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Mëds wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:25 pm What you taught your kids was applicable 20 years ago. It is not today. If you were paying attention you would have seen that the individual politicians vote the party line in the house and don’t actually represent the constituency. You now have to vote for the party and platform. I wish it were different.
I've been following politics for about 45 years, and it was true back then too, Mëds. Very few votes are deemed free votes or conscience votes. Typically, they are on a few rare social issues like gun control, MAID, death penalty, etc. But, very few MPs vote against their party for the rest of the votes. And they often only vote against the party once before they sit as indpendants.
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What you taught your kids was applicable 20 years ago. It is not today. If you were paying attention you would have seen that the individual politicians vote the party line in the house and don’t actually represent the constituency. You now have to vote for the party and platform. I wish it were different.
You may be right, but I was taught at an early age that of the 5 C's of lending the one that seldom changed was character which I found to be true during my work life...

The alternative is to get caught up in tribal politics which allows politicians to trot out slogans and policies which appeal to the masses but aren't grounded in sound public, or in the case of the Liberals under JT, fiscal policies...
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rikster wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 8:06 am
What you taught your kids was applicable 20 years ago. It is not today. If you were paying attention you would have seen that the individual politicians vote the party line in the house and don’t actually represent the constituency. You now have to vote for the party and platform. I wish it were different.
You may be right, but I was taught at an early age that of the 5 C's of lending the one that seldom changed was character which I found to be true during my work life...

The alternative is to get caught up in tribal politics which allows politicians to trot out slogans and policies which appeal to the masses but aren't grounded in sound public, or in the case of the Liberals under JT, fiscal policies...
I’m assuming you mean the 5 C’s of leading…..

Carney has gotten in bed with politicians of highly questionable ethics and morals. Any Liberal MP who was close to Trudeau has demonstrated a complete lack of moral character over the last 10 years. Carney was an advisor to this group and now wants toward them.

Confidence - I think it’s a draw between MC and PP.

Communication - Carney has been poor so far. Double talk and clouding issues.

Credibility - Lots of half truths and misdirection. Carney certainly does not have credibility at this point. We have little to go on with PP, but he’s hardly been 100% honest either.

Character - Hard pass on Carney.

Creativity - I have no clue.


Leaves us with platform.
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Fuckiing crap

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Trudeau forgot to call no tag-backs.
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Megaterio Llamas wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 2:29 pm Fuckiing crap

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Commerce Secretary Lutnick comments this afternoon...
“Both the Mexicans and the Canadians were on the phone with me all day today trying to show that they’ll do better, and the president’s listening, because you know he’s very, very fair and very reasonable,” Lutnick said in an interview with Fox Business. “So I think he’s going to work something out with them — it’s not going to be a pause, none of that pause stuff, but I think he’s going to figure out: you do more and I’ll meet you in the middle some way and we’re going to probably announcing that tomorrow.”
What a friggen gong show down there...

Listened to the head of BC Farmers who made it clear tariffs will hurt their farmers who send 73% of their products to America in the short term but long term this could be an economic gain...

Restaurants and Grocery stores are frantically calling asking where they can find Canadian produce and want to switch their purchasing to domestic...

In the short term produce prices will likely go down at the grocery stores as farmer stop selling to America and flood the Canadian market...

Gotta wonder why we haven't been doing this stuff all along?

So far my wife and I haven't had a problem buying from Canadian or non American producers, the produce we can't buy fresh we have started to buy frozen ...

Crazy to think the oranges we just bought were from Egypt!...
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5thhorseman wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 2:40 pm Trudeau forgot to call no tag-backs.
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Megaterio Llamas wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 2:29 pm Fuckiing crap

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I've taxed my people 25% so if you tax your people 25%, I'll raise the tax on my people to 50%.

The response should be to lower or remove existing tariffs on goods.
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Tciso wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 7:54 am
Mëds wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:25 pm
rikster wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 5:00 pm I don't look at it that way, I've always taught my kids to look at the person and not the Party...
What you taught your kids was applicable 20 years ago. It is not today. If you were paying attention you would have seen that the individual politicians vote the party line in the house and don’t actually represent the constituency. You now have to vote for the party and platform. I wish it were different.
I've been following politics for about 45 years, and it was true back then too, Mëds. Very few votes are deemed free votes or conscience votes. Typically, they are on a few rare social issues like gun control, MAID, death penalty, etc. But, very few MPs vote against their party for the rest of the votes. And they often only vote against the party once before they sit as indpendants.
Tciso, are you telling us Rikster led his kids astray? :wow:

How rude...
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The Trump administration is now telling its citizens to raise their own chickens as a way to deal with the cost of an egg...
Trump Agriculture Boss Says Cash-Strapped Americans Can Raise Their Own Chickens to Save on Eggs
As Mëds and others have said, in the long run Trump and America are doing us a favor and if we don't run with it long term then its nobody's fault but our own...

It took a convicted felon and sexual preditor to wake us up and give us our identity off the ice rink....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8peiLVFsLdw
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https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/co ... slide-poll

Some good news for Canadians - well, at least the majority of Canadians. 8-)
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Melanie Joly is dressing like Zelensky now - she has donned designer battle fatigues :lol:


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Megaterio Llamas wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:46 pm Melanie Joly is dressing like Zelensky now - she has donned designer battle fatigues :lol:


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Topper wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:53 pm
Megaterio Llamas wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:46 pm Melanie Joly is dressing like Zelensky now - she has donned designer battle fatigues :lol:


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