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How the mighty have fallen..... :(
Among the anti-democratic tactics Mr. Trump has adopted are some that were commonly employed by leaders like Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe, Nicolás Maduro of Venezuela and Slobodan Milosevic of Serbia — refusing to concede defeat and hurling unfounded accusations of electoral fraud. The tactics also include undermining confidence in democratic institutions and the courts, attacking the press and vilifying opponents.
An early draft of the playbook used by leaders who never admit defeat was written in 1946 by the Socialist Unity Party, a communist outfit in the then Soviet-controlled eastern lands of Germany. Trounced in the first German election after World War II, the party, known as the SED, greeted its defeat with a bold headline in its newspaper — “Great Victory for SED!” — and took over ruling East Germany for the next 45 years.
When the Moscow-installed leader of Hungary, Matyas Rakosi, watched as the Communist Party lost elections in 1945, he turned “pale as a corpse, slumped into his chair, without saying a word,” according to a party official who was present and later described what happened to Hungarian historians. Within a year most of his opponents were dead, in prison or terrified into silence — and he was running the country.

Nobody expects Mr. Trump to follow that gruesome example. But by insisting he won a vote that results show he clearly lost, he has broken sharply with the norms of countries that view themselves as mature democracies.

“Trump’s behavior is without precedent among leaders in Western democracies,” said Serhii Plokhy, a Harvard historian who has studied former communist states like Ukraine. “Even in military dictatorships, the dictators more often than not honor the results of elections and they retire if they lose them.”
In November 2010, President Laurent Gbagbo of Ivory Coast refused to accept his loss in an election, suppressing protests with live ammunition, killing dozens and dragging the country into a brief civil war in which over 3,000 people died.

Like Mr. Trump, he freely used government machinery to challenge the election result, insisting he had not been defeated. The crisis stretched out over almost five months and brought Ivory Coast to its knees economically.

With French military support, the president-elect, Alassane Ouattara, finally assumed power as Mr. Gbagbo — whose campaign slogan had been “We win or we win” — was dragged out of his bunker in Abidjan, the capital.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/11/worl ... e=Homepage

It is an embarassment that the outgoing president of the USA behaves in a way that lends itself to comparissons with tin pot dictators. :(

This damage to the picture of the US as a shining beacon on a hill will take decades to repair.
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Per wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:42 pm
Strangelove wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:45 pm
"My orange hero" is the current President of America.

(coup = overthrow)
Sure, "My orange hero" is the current president, but Biden is the president-elect.
If Don Trumpleone does not step down in a timely fashion and hand the keys to Uncle Joe, it amounts to a coup.
Ahh but Biden isn’t the President-elect!

The President-elect is determined in mid-December upon confirmation by the Electoral College and Congress.

As a matter of fact, not a single state has yet even certified its vote count! :wow:

Therefore you and your band of zombies are idiots for saying "My orange hero" is trying to bring “a coup”.

Per wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:42 pm
Strangelove wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:45 pm It would be more sensible to suggest Biden & Co. are attempting a coup.
:lol:

Why would he attempt a coup? He already won, remember?
No one has won this election yet, remember?

Fucking zombies! :lol:

Per wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:42 pm
It won’t happen. :drink:

At least not in a legal fashion. :?
"My orange hero" is out to win this election in a SOLELY legal fashion, so like wot da fuck dude…
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Per wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:49 pm
Strangelove wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:35 pm The media (mostly) claims Biden won the election.
The media are just reporting the results.

Not a single state election office has claimed that the media are wrong.

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If you could get them to comment on it, of course they would have to say the media is wrong.

(not a single state has certified its vote count)

You can’t be this stupid…
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ukcanuck wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:10 pm How many Republican states did Biden win?
Zero.

Technically Biden has won zero Rep state and zero Dem states.

Not a single state has yet certified its vote count…
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^I'm gonna order a bunch of those, they'll be worth a fortune after "My orange hero" wins this thing! :thumbs:
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Strangelove wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:08 pm .
Corn, you don't watch the video yet label it "vague".

You don't look into the alleged wrongdoings yet label it all "random shit from a buffoon".

Is this why America is so divided?

But you agreed that "an election this close is going to get run through the courts, it's that simple".

So would you mind repeating that to Per when he goes on and on and on whining about it?


(I'll be busy on those days) :D
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Per wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:31 am Now, if Trump had even a smidgen of decency in his bloated body he'd stop whining and concede.
Per wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:34 am
Strangelove wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:14 am The media doesn't get to officially declare the Prez LMAO.

That's up to the Electoral College next month.

In the meanwhile, cue the lawyers and judges, weeeee...
Yeah, Trump is making a total embarassment out of himself.
Per wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:56 pm [Trump] has never been able to admit to losing. A con man and a fraud with some very weird personal flaws.
Per wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:57 pm Legally? Not a chance in hell. But as a pretext for a coup? Sure. :|
Per wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:42 pm Biden is the president-elect.
Per wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:42 pm Any candidate with a shred of decency would already have conceded.
Per wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:59 am He can't do it. At least not legally. But that won't stop the litigious sore loser from trying.

It's an embarassment.

The people have spoken! :thumbs:
Per wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:13 am It is an embarassment that the outgoing president of the USA behaves in a way that lends itself to comparissons with tin pot dictators. :(
Per, stop your whining and admit Corn and I were right in saying:

"an election this close is going to get run through the courts, it's that simple"

You're embarrassing yourself...
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Strangelove wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:04 pm Per, stop your whining and admit Corn and I were right in saying:
"an election this close is going to get run through the courts, it's that simple"
You can leave me out of this - it's not close any more, and your orange hero's frivolous lawsuits are failing in epic fashion. It's over. It's done.

If it wasn't for the obsolete electoral college, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

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^Believe what you want, laugh while you can, FEC Chairman Trainor disagrees with you:

https://www.wtma.com/news/trey-trainor- ... ing-place/
Trey Trainor to Newsmax TV: Voter Fraud Is Taking Place

Chair of the Federal Election Commission Trey Trainor believes voter fraud is taking place in states still counting ballots.

During a Friday appearance on Newsmax TV’s “National Report,” Trainor said locations not granting observers access to watch the ballot counting process could be involved in voter fraud.

“I do believe that there is voter fraud taking place in these places,” he said. “Otherwise they would allow the observers to go in.”

Despite winning a court order, which allows the Trump campaign to send observers to watch ballot counting in Pennsylvania from six feet away, Trainor said ballot watchers “have not been allowed into the polling locations in a meaningful way.”

He said when observers have been permitted to watch, the goalpost has been moved away from the six feet required by the court order.

“They have not been allowed that meaningful access,” he said, adding there has not been transparency in the election.

“Our whole political system is based upon transparency to avoid the appearance of corruption,” he said pointing out that Pennsylvania and other states are not conducting counting in a transparent manner.

“State law allows those observers to be in there,” he said, adding if the law isn’t being followed then this election is “illegitimate.”

He said the lawsuits filed by the Trump campaign are “very valid allegations” that need to be “fully vetted” by the court system. He predicts some of the legal challenges will likely end up in the Supreme Court.


https://www.oann.com/fec-chairman-debun ... egitimate/
FEC Chairman Debunks MSM Claims Of ‘No Fraud’, Says Counting Illegal Votes Can Make Election ‘Illegitimate’

The chairman of the Federal Elections Commission (FEC), Trey Trainor, said reports of voter fraud in key battleground states are credible.

In a recent interview, he pointed out that Democrat officials removing GOP poll watchers from polling locations is a violation of state law and federal court orders.

“When you have claims of, you know, 10,000 people who don’t live in the state of Nevada having voted in Neveda, you have the video…they’re (poll workers) either duplicating a spoiled ballot there or they’re in the process of marking a ballot that came in blank for a vote,” Trainor explained.

The FEC chief added, he agrees with the Trump campaign’s lawsuits and said their observers were denied meaningful access. Trainor also said questionable actions by the Democrats may render this election illegitimate.

“That’s a process that is to be observed by election observers, the law allows those observers to be in there,” he continued. “And if they’re not then the law is not being followed, making this an illegitimate election.”

In recent days, the mainstream media has continued to claim there was no voter fraud in this year’s elections, but Trainor’s statements reveal this election is far from over.
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Strangelove wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:38 pm ^Believe what you want, laugh while you can, FEC Chairman Trainor disagrees with you:

https://www.wtma.com/news/trey-trainor- ... ing-place/

https://www.oann.com/fec-chairman-debun ... egitimate/
Trey Trainor the 3rd, from the law offices of Trainor, Trainor and Trainor?

Trey Trainor recently appointed to the FEC by Trump this past June?

The Trey Trainor, who is head of a commission whose function is to oversee the finances of elections remain free of manipulation?

Big surprise that that Trey Trainor the 111 would make such statements for his puppet master

I wonder if Trump placed that guy on that commission as a stooge in his grand plan to steal the election from Biden?

We know he thinks he’s got at least one or two federal judges in his pocket.
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Yeah Trainor also worked as a lawyer for Trump's 2016 campaign so no big surprise he would say that.

Hey Strange, why don't you give us something really noteworthy, like which lawsuit is going to turn the tide for Trump.
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ukcanuck wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:34 pm Big surprise that that Trey Trainor the 111 would make such statements for his puppet master

I wonder if Trump placed that guy on that commission as a stooge in his grand plan to steal the election from Biden?

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Lord Trump has appointed thousands of people, it's what Presidents do...

ukcanuck wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:34 pm We know he thinks he’s got at least one or two federal judges in his pocket.
Do we UK? Do we know that? :lol:

Lord Trump has appointed 220 federal judges.

https://news.ballotpedia.org/2020/11/03 ... urth-year/
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5thhorseman wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:43 pm Hey Strange, why don't you give us something really noteworthy, like which lawsuit is going to turn the tide for Trump.
Could be any one of 352, google is your friend and your guess is as good as mine...
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