Conspiracy Theory

[Strangelove]

[ukcanuck]

http://heiwaco.tripod.com/moontravel.htm

[Strangelove]

LOL that dufus doesn't know what he's talking about!

Schmuck is assuming they'd broadcast a live hoax, rather than prerecorded + edited.

I prefer assumption-less facts + science, they go into great detail about the video/pics here:

[Rumsfeld]

There's clearly not enough data to say with certainty that the moon exists in the first place. Another thousand years of observation is required and in the meantime we should pray.

If it does exist it is almost definitely hollow. Or concave.

[Strangelove]

There's clearly not enough data to say with certainty that the moon exists in the first place. Another thousand years of observation is required and in the meantime we should pray.

If it does exist it is almost definitely hollow. Or concave.

LOL OMG you people!!

If the moon exists it can't possibly be concave!

What part of this do you not understand:

[ukcanuck]

[quote="Strangelove"][quote="ukcanuck"]




Schmuck is assuming they'd broadcast a live hoax, rather than prerecorded + edited.

um nooo....he's saying that the technology required to film or video astronauts walking around in less gravity than would be present in a studio here on earth could only be simulated with slo-motion video camera's that didn't exist in 1969.

He does mention that it might be done with 35 mm movie cameras of the kind that Stanley Kubrick used in a 2001: A Space Odyssey however the problems in creating the hours and hours of footage to convert into video to be broadcast later would contain so many flaws (splices, scratches, dust etc) that the whole "conspiracy" would have been known immediately in 1969.


face it bub, your position on this is just plain hollow

[Strangelove]

Schmuck is assuming they'd broadcast a live hoax, rather than prerecorded + edited.

um nooo....he's saying that the technology required to film or video astronauts walking around in less gravity than would be present in a studio here on earth could only be simulated with slo-motion video camera's that didn't exist in 1969.

um nooo....he says in the clip: "We've been able to do slow motion in film for as long as we have had film".

Then says the moon videos were on video (rather than film)

Then he goes on and on and on and on about how much film would be required for the length of the "Landings".



But he misses the possibility that short segments of a hoax could have been filmed, then projected in slo-mo

.... the projection then recorded on video (no splices, etc).

(keep in mind the ridiculously low-quality of the moon videos in comparison to the moon pics)

(and yes, at certain points he assumes a live hoax broadcast)

face it bub, your position on this is just plain hollow

I'm not your bub, man.

You didn't watch my video did you.

I'd like to see your man sgcollins respond to what the real experts in his field say in dat dere vid.

And btw the way, I don't have a position on this.

[ukcanuck]

Schmuck is assuming they'd broadcast a live hoax, rather than prerecorded + edited.

um nooo....he's saying that the technology required to film or video astronauts walking around in less gravity than would be present in a studio here on earth could only be simulated with slo-motion video camera's that didn't exist in 1969.

um nooo....he says in the clip: "We've been able to do slow motion in film for as long as we have had film".

Then says the moon videos were on video (rather than film)

Then he goes on and on and on and on about how much film would be required for the length of the "Landings".



But he misses the possibility that short segments of a hoax could have been filmed, then projected in slo-mo

.... the projection then recorded on video (no splices, etc).

(keep in mind the ridiculously low-quality of the moon videos in comparison to the moon pics)

(and yes, at certain points he assumes a live hoax broadcast)

face it bub, your position on this is just plain hollow

I'm not your bub, man.

You didn't watch my video did you.

I'd like to see your man sgcollins respond to what the real experts in his field say in dat dere vid.

And btw the way, I don't have a position on this.

lol I did start watching but its three hours long its going to take a lot of skiving at work to get through it all.

[ukcanuck]

I don't think you were paying much attention to my video because the "doofus" addresses your theory of "fixing the video images before hand

He points out that in 1969 it virtually impossible in practical terms to transfer 147 minutes of slow-mo moon walk filmed in a studio on high speed 35 mm film then transfer it to video without all kinds of detectable flaws. He lists them all including a thing called gate weave which is produced by the 35mm film wobbling slightly as it spools through the video lens on the telecine (the machine that transfers film to video). Digital image stabilization can correct this today ( you could probably do it on a mac book) but in 1969 the digital technology did not exist.

so he does in FACT address the idea of prerecording on film and transferring to video for a "live broadcast"

As for your position, its been pretty much the same "we did not go to the moon" since before the great migration and at least two conspiracy threads...

[Topper]

My toilet bowl looked exactly like that this morning.




............how did you get that picture yesturday?.........

[ukcanuck]

My toilet bowl looked exactly like that this morning.




............how did you get that picture yesturday?.........

Hollow whiskey bottle theory ?

[Strangelove]

lol I did start watching but its three hours long its going to take a lot of skiving at work to get through it all.

You should watch it, it's the right way to play.

And you should hurry, cuz like if you go back to the first page in this thread you'll see that eventually

... they

... get rid of these kinds of videos.

[Strangelove]

I don't think you were paying much attention to my video because the "doofus" addresses your theory of "fixing the video images before hand

I don't think you were paying much attention to my response

... because the doofus did not address my theory.

He points out that in 1969 it virtually impossible in practical terms to transfer 147 minutes of slow-mo moon walk filmed in a studio on high speed 35 mm film then transfer it to video without all kinds of detectable flaws. He lists them all including a thing called gate weave which is produced by the 35mm film wobbling slightly as it spools through the video lens on the telecine (the machine that transfers film to video). Digital image stabilization can correct this today ( you could probably do it on a mac book) but in 1969 the digital technology did not exist.

Re-read my post.

so he does in FACT address the idea of prerecording on film and transferring to video for a "live broadcast"

He does NOT in FACT address the idea satisfactorily.

My theory, which you seemed to have missed, is one idea he didn’t address.

There are others, here is the best rebuttal addressed directly to your dufus Collins:

SUMMARY:

Did NASA have the technology to fake the moon walk videos in 1969? Of course they did! But with the release of a certain video by SG Collins, a large number of deniers have claimed otherwise. This response should set the record straight.

In summary, Collins claims that there were no high speed video cameras in 1969. False. High speed video cameras first came into existence in the early 1960s and the fastest they could shoot at was 60fps.

http://www.motionvideoproducts.com/faqs.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_photography

Collins then says that the Ampex HS-100 magnetic disk recorder, which was used for slow motion instant sports relays, could only store 30 seconds of footage. Irrelevant. You could just as easily feed recordings from videotape into the disk recorder piece by piece and then record its slow motion playback on a second videotape.

And finally, Collins says that shooting on 35mm film and then converting those recordings to videotape would require five (actually six) 1,000 ft magazines, and then a series of cutting, splicing, and transferring. This is true, but also irrelevant. The entire Apollo 11 EVA (if broadcast at 10fps - see below) could fit on a single 2,300 ft magazine of 16mm film - you know, the type of film specifically used for television.

Also unveiled is a new discovery that the Apollo 11 moonwalk was broadcast, not at 10fps as claimed, but more likely at 24fps. This revelation further throws into doubt the official story since it shows the moonwalk was recorded using equipment that reportedly wasn't in their possession when they departed Earth.

So you see, your dufus has his facts wrong and his video is, in essence: gobbledygook.

(equipment that was in their possession when they allegedly departed Earth is dealt with in my 3hr vid)

You know, yours truly goes to great lengths before posting links + quotations.

I do wish people such as yourself wouldn't pollute this thread with gobbledygook.

I mean, why THE FUCK would you choose to accept whatever random dufus Collins has to say as gospel.

Oh yeah, you're that evil-jews-are-controlling-the-world guy, aren't you?

As for your position, its been pretty much the same "we did not go to the moon" since before the great migration and at least two conspiracy threads...

I present various ideas for discussion purposes as to degree of possibility.

For example, lately the ideas of Hollow Earth, Concave Hollow Earth, and Expanding Earth have been resurrected.

As I said recently, those theories are not compatible with each other.

I don't accept any theories, only facts.

YOU... have been back and forth on the Moon Landing Hoax theory.

I have encouraged you in the past to open up to the community about these feelings, without fear of mockery

*glares at Rumsfeld*

... just as I would encourage a guy like UDL to open up about his feelings on ghosts/aliens.

(neither of which I personally believe in btw)

I'm here to HELP people.

I'm a HEALER.

Lately I'm Blue because of you.... and Rummy.

*glares at Rumsfeld*

[Strangelove]

My toilet bowl looked exactly like that this morning.

............how did you get that picture yesturday?.........

Here's a not-too-shitty theory.

In the future, the Concave Earth Theory becomes the "scientific consensus".

In the future, they discover a way to view everything that has ever happened anywhere in Earth's past.

In the future, folks can do a Google "similar picture" search and send that picture back in time.

In the future some smartass such as yourself was having a little fun.

[2Fingers]

Really makes you wonder how many new people actually want to do that?