The Official Dave Ayres CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Welcome to the main forum of our site. Anything and everything to do with the Vancouver Canucks is dicussed and debated here.

Moderators: donlever, Referees

User avatar
2Fingers
MVP
MVP
Posts: 2438
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:47 am

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by 2Fingers »

Is there crying of relief on TSN?
User avatar
BigTuna
CC Hall of Fan Member
Posts: 1546
Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:16 am

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by BigTuna »

Dubas is the man!

Our team just got even better.
User avatar
Blob Mckenzie
MVP
MVP
Posts: 9566
Joined: Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:34 pm
Location: Oakalla

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by Blob Mckenzie »

BigTuna wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:40 pm Dubas is the man!

Our team just got even better.
D is still not good enough when it comes to crunch time
“I don’t care what you and some other poster were talking about”
User avatar
Mickey107
MVP
MVP
Posts: 4999
Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:27 am
Location: Richmond, B.C.

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by Mickey107 »

I'm so proud. I got a abbreviated FY out of Tuna. awesome.
"evolution"
User avatar
Hockey Widow
CC Legend
Posts: 3406
Joined: Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:52 pm

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by Hockey Widow »

It’s a weird deal cap wise. Year one 10.4 cap hit. Then years 2-6 it’s 6.9 per. I guess it has to do with signing at Dec 1 and maybe someone can explain it. But 6.9 is market value and perhaps tells us what Boeser’s new deal will look like.

As Blob suggests, now that Nylander is signed he becomes a very good commodity to trade, for leaves they’d hope for D. If it doesn’t involve D or upgrade in net then trading him makes no sense.
The only HW the Canucks need
User avatar
BigTuna
CC Hall of Fan Member
Posts: 1546
Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:16 am

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by BigTuna »

Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:42 pm
BigTuna wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:40 pm Dubas is the man!

Our team just got even better.
D is still not good enough when it comes to crunch time
3rd in GA in the NHL.
User avatar
Blob Mckenzie
MVP
MVP
Posts: 9566
Joined: Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:34 pm
Location: Oakalla

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by Blob Mckenzie »

BigTuna wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:59 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:42 pm
BigTuna wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:40 pm Dubas is the man!

Our team just got even better.
D is still not good enough when it comes to crunch time
3rd in GA in the NHL.
Waayy early. Hainsey in anyone’s top 4 doesn’t work. Not when he’s 47
“I don’t care what you and some other poster were talking about”
User avatar
BigTuna
CC Hall of Fan Member
Posts: 1546
Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:16 am

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by BigTuna »

Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:12 pm
BigTuna wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:59 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:42 pm
BigTuna wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:40 pm Dubas is the man!

Our team just got even better.
D is still not good enough when it comes to crunch time
3rd in GA in the NHL.
Waayy early. Hainsey in anyone’s top 4 doesn’t work. Not when he’s 47
Too early to point out statistically they are 3rd in GA, but not too early to say they are eliminated in the 1st round.
Hainsey won a cup as the #2 DMan 2 years ago FYI. And Dermott is playing great and will overtake his minutes.
User avatar
Strangelove
Moderator & MVP
Moderator & MVP
Posts: 15909
Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:13 pm
Location: Someday

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by Strangelove »

BigTuna wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:56 pm Willy has signed, 6 years, 6.9 million per. Announced officially at 4:59 PM. LOL
It's a 5.66 year deal.

BigTuna wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:04 pm Cap hit is 6.5 million per years 2-6 due to the Dec 1st signing.
Cap hit is $6,971,326 per years 2-6.

BigTuna wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:06 pm
RoyalDude wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:04 pm They are going to regret that contract. Idiots
6.5 million cap hit? Huh?

$10,209,974 cap hit this year + $6,971,326 cap hit per years 2-6.

Average cap hit = $7.5M

That's a lot more than the $6M cap hit Leaves wanted.

In actual dollars Nylander pockets $45M minus around $3M for the 26 games he sat out.

($41.77M in his pocket for 5.66 seasons = $7.38M per season)

https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/statu ... 1345828864
Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun

leaves were at 6 x 6 at the start of the season and desperately didn’t want to go above 6.5 for the longest time, the ordeal was well worth it financially for Nylander
Leaves went to $7M, Nylander with the win...
____
Try to focus on someday.
User avatar
Strangelove
Moderator & MVP
Moderator & MVP
Posts: 15909
Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:13 pm
Location: Someday

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by Strangelove »

BigTuna wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:39 pm Too early to point out statistically they are 3rd in GA, but not too early to say they are eliminated in the 1st round.
The 1st round last season already occurred.

Only one third of this season has thus far occurred.

BigTuna wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:39 pm Hainsey won a cup as the #2 DMan 2 years ago FYI. And Dermott is playing great and will overtake his minutes.
Hainsey is 37 now and, as you know, he completely ran out of gas last season, long before the playoffs began.

Hainsey plays the right side and Dermott the left.

Perhaps you meant Hainsey will replace Gardiner's minutes? (everyone knows they will both be gone)

Either way you're dreaming if you think Dermott will suddenly be able to handle 2-4 minutes more per night...
____
Try to focus on someday.
User avatar
Strangelove
Moderator & MVP
Moderator & MVP
Posts: 15909
Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:13 pm
Location: Someday

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by Strangelove »

Hockey Widow wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:51 pm It’s a weird deal cap wise. Year one 10.4 cap hit. Then years 2-6 it’s 6.9 per. I guess it has to do with signing at Dec 1 and maybe someone can explain it.
I mentioned this a few days ago, it only happens when a player holds out (very rare as you know).

Two weeks ago McKenzie explained it a bit:

https://www.tsn.ca/mckenzie-signing-bon ... -1.1209609
____
Try to focus on someday.
User avatar
Strangelove
Moderator & MVP
Moderator & MVP
Posts: 15909
Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:13 pm
Location: Someday

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by Strangelove »

Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:21 pm They’ll still likely move him between now and the summer though
I think there's a good chance they trade him just after the July 1, 2019 ($8.3M) bonus payment.
____
Try to focus on someday.
User avatar
BigTuna
CC Hall of Fan Member
Posts: 1546
Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:16 am

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by BigTuna »

Strangelove wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:24 pm
BigTuna wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:39 pm Too early to point out statistically they are 3rd in GA, but not too early to say they are eliminated in the 1st round.
The 1st round last season already occurred.

Only one third of this season has thus far occurred.

BigTuna wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:39 pm Hainsey won a cup as the #2 DMan 2 years ago FYI. And Dermott is playing great and will overtake his minutes.
Hainsey is 37 now and, as you know, he completely ran out of gas last season, long before the playoffs began.

Hainsey plays the right side and Dermott the left.

Perhaps you meant Hainsey will replace Gardiner's minutes? (everyone knows they will both be gone)

Either way you're dreaming if you think Dermott will suddenly be able to handle 2-4 minutes more per night...
Dermott is playing great. What the hell are you talking about. He should be playing 2-3 more minutes easy per night.
User avatar
Strangelove
Moderator & MVP
Moderator & MVP
Posts: 15909
Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:13 pm
Location: Someday

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by Strangelove »

BigTuna wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:56 pm Dermott is playing great. What the hell are you talking about. He should be playing 2-3 more minutes easy per night.
17:48 minutes per game in 23 games this year, up from 16 minutes over 37 games last year.

18 total points in 60 NHL games... for an "offensive" defenseman!

But yeah, he's going to magically turn into a top-4 dman... CUZ YOU SAY SO! :lol:

Listen pal, if you insist on guzzling the koolaid and spouting the fantasies that follow

... I advise you remain within the safety of your circle-jerk Leaves board. :mex:
____
Try to focus on someday.
User avatar
BigTuna
CC Hall of Fan Member
Posts: 1546
Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:16 am

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by BigTuna »

Strangelove wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 7:07 pm
BigTuna wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:56 pm Dermott is playing great. What the hell are you talking about. He should be playing 2-3 more minutes easy per night.
17:48 minutes per game in 23 games this year, up from 16 minutes over 37 games last year.

18 total points in 60 NHL games... for an "offensive" defenseman!

But yeah, he's going to magically turn into a top-4 dman... CUZ YOU SAY SO! :lol:

Listen pal, if you insist on guzzling the koolaid and spouting the fantasies that follow

... I advise you remain within the safety of your circle-jerk Leaves board. :mex:
In fairness, I am usually right about these things and you are not. Doesn't Marner suck and Rielly a #4 or 5 D?
Post Reply