Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

[Mickey107]

Ya, maybe

[Blob Mckenzie]

Yzerman - 1 year left on his contract as Tampa GM
Holland - 1 year left on his contract as Detroit GM

Yzerman - stepping down to be closer to his family and spending more time with them in Detroit
Holland - will announce (before his contract expires) that he is stepping down to spend more time with his family

Yzerman - future GM of the Detroit Red Wings
Holland - (possible) future GM of Seattle

Don’t count out Holland coming here

[SKYO]

Vernon, BC's Ken Holland would be great at taking Smyl's spot as the new Senior Advisor, where Smyl could be a President of something, along with his scouting role.

[Blob Mckenzie]

Vernon, BC's Ken Holland would be great at taking Smyl's spot as the new Senior Advisor, where Smyl could be a President of something, along with his scouting role.

Holland would only come in as the Prez.

Smyl could be president of hamburger sales.

[Richardstroker69]

Vernon, BC's Ken Holland would be great at taking Smyl's spot as the new Senior Advisor, where Smyl could be a President of something, along with his scouting role.

Holland would only come in as the Prez.

Smyl could be president of hamburger sales.

Lol agree with Smyl and hamburger sales. I think holland and Jim could work well together. I’d think holland will be in Seattle though.

[Cousin Strawberry]

Or Benning goes to Seattle and KH takes the canucks to glory...benning lives in oregon

[Topper]

Send the Steamer and his fucking jersey to scout the basement of Queens Park Arena for remnants of Barry Beck's jock strap.

[Richardstroker69]

Or Benning goes to Seattle and KH takes the canucks to glory...benning lives in oregon

I could see this as well.

[Blob Mckenzie]

Send the Steamer and his fucking jersey to scout the basement of Queens Park Arena for remnants of Barry Beck's jock strap.

Bubba Beck is in China or HK coaching kids in hockey

[SKYO]

Vernon, BC's Ken Holland would be great at taking Smyl's spot as the new Senior Advisor, where Smyl could be a President of something, along with his scouting role.

Holland would only come in as the Prez.

Smyl could be president of hamburger sales.

Lol agree with Smyl and hamburger sales. I think holland and Jim could work well together. I’d think holland will be in Seattle though.

The only thing with Ken Holland is he always wanted a VETERAN team so his squad would always make the playoffs, and he had the HHOF great one & legend Nicklas Lidstrom.

And their best success of course came when Lidstrom was in his prime years and they won 4 championships.

Holland once joked he'd retire when Lidstrom retired.

And when Lidstrom retired in 2012 - Kenny would still stock their team full of vets which yes helped them reach the playoffs but floundered, 2013 rd2, 14' rd1, 15' rd1, 16' rd1, 17' out, 18' out.

The cap also didn't help his cause, and they have very little youthful prospects (sans zadina), it's like when Gillis left the Canucks with an old team, with no prospects with locked up veterans who have iron clad NTC's, FFS look at their defense with like 5 NTC (2modded) - https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/redwings

And they have the highest cap hit in the league, they literally have $0 in cap space lol.

About the only good he'd be right now is as an Senior Advisor thanks to his success in the Lidstrom prime years and his connections across the league, his connects & experience is what could help JB/Weisbrod possibly.

Wasn't their a study about former NHL GM's who won a Cup with a team, but couldn't recreate that success elsewhere? The best GM's put in their roots in at a good age with their team, drafting their future core and building from there, which Jim Benning is currently doing and doing a mighty fine job at that.

[Mickey107]

+1

[Todd Bersnoozi]

StalWART Luca Sbisa has managed to muster up a PTO.

Bit surprised the Pall Bearer didn't make an offer to the Pizza-man, considering JB seemed to like him, our D was pretty bad last season and our D always gets banged up. Guess they had no room.

[Blob Mckenzie]

Vernon, BC's Ken Holland would be great at taking Smyl's spot as the new Senior Advisor, where Smyl could be a President of something, along with his scouting role.

Holland would only come in as the Prez.

Smyl could be president of hamburger sales.

Lol agree with Smyl and hamburger sales. I think holland and Jim could work well together. I’d think holland will be in Seattle though.

The only thing with Ken Holland is he always wanted a VETERAN team so his squad would always make the playoffs, and he had the HHOF great one & legend Nicklas Lidstrom.

And their best success of course came when Lidstrom was in his prime years and they won 4 championships.

Holland once joked he'd retire when Lidstrom retired.

And when Lidstrom retired in 2012 - Kenny would still stock their team full of vets which yes helped them reach the playoffs but floundered, 2013 rd2, 14' rd1, 15' rd1, 16' rd1, 17' out, 18' out.

The cap also didn't help his cause, and they have very little youthful prospects (sans zadina), it's like when Gillis left the Canucks with an old team, with no prospects with locked up veterans who have iron clad NTC's, FFS look at their defense with like 5 NTC (2modded) - https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/redwings

And they have the highest cap hit in the league, they literally have $0 in cap space lol.

About the only good he'd be right now is as an Senior Advisor thanks to his success in the Lidstrom prime years and his connections across the league, his connects & experience is what could help JB/Weisbrod possibly.

Wasn't their a study about former NHL GM's who won a Cup with a team, but couldn't recreate that success elsewhere? The best GM's put in their roots in at a good age with their team, drafting their future core and building from there, which Jim Benning is currently doing and doing a mighty fine job at that.

The Wings broke in a lot of good kids during Ken Holland’s watch over the years. You think Zetterberg, Datsyuk and Kronwall started in the heir 30s? He didn’t always want a veteran team, Ridiculous. Teams go through ups and downs and he has a few cups. And Detroit does have some good prospects other than Zadina.

The Canucks have also been jammed against the cap for the past three years and have the leagues worst combined record over the past three seasons.

[SKYO]

The Wings broke in a lot of good kids during Ken Holland’s watch over the years. You think Zetterberg, Datsyuk and Kronwall started in the heir 30s? He didn’t always want a veteran team, Ridiculous. Teams go through ups and downs and he has a few cups. And Detroit does have some good prospects other than Zadina.

The Canucks have also been jammed against the cap for the past three years and have the leagues worst combined record over the past three seasons.

It's been pretty obvious Holland loved the veterans.

"Red Wings GM Holland has no appetite for a painful rebuild"
https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/ ... ul-rebuild

"This might not be what fans of the Detroit Red Wings want to hear at the moment, but if you’re looking the franchise to strip things down to the wood and rebuild from the bottom, you’re going to be disappointed. Because the same thing that made the Red Wings a modern-day dynasty and fuelled them to 25 straight playoff appearances is what is going to continue to drive them.

And that is that it’s simply not in GM Ken Holland’s DNA to strive to be bad. So don’t expect the Red Wings to unload veterans en masse, fire their coach, clean house and start over. Rather than rebuild, Holland thinks the Red Wings need to retool.

“If you look at the Eastern Conference, there are five teams that were out of the playoffs last year that are in this year,” Holland said. “We’ve got to do what those other teams did last year that missed and are back in. We have to retool a little bit and try to get a little better. And over the long haul keep drafting and developing. That’s how the Red Wings were built.”

Like I said about the salary cap, to elaborate a bit - that changed everything, Ken Holland managed to win one more championship with Lidstrom and their team never were able solidify a team good enough in the playoffs after that.

His line of thinking is great if you had a Nik Lidstrom in his prime taking over every game or series, NL is akin to Chris Pronger, Bobby Orr, those legends can change your team in a instant.

That said, I'd still love KH and his wisdom on the squad,
he'd be great to have when it's time to target veterans to surround Bo/Boeser/Pettersson/Dahlen.

In the meantime the Canucks need to continue forever into eternity to try to acquire that rare game changer dman, Hughes/Juolevi are good steps in that direction to solidify the top 4.

[ESQ]

The Wings broke in a lot of good kids during Ken Holland’s watch over the years. You think Zetterberg, Datsyuk and Kronwall started in the heir 30s? He didn’t always want a veteran team, Ridiculous. Teams go through ups and downs and he has a few cups. And Detroit does have some good prospects other than Zadina.

The Canucks have also been jammed against the cap for the past three years and have the leagues worst combined record over the past three seasons.

Blob, those are three players that broke in 15 years ago. From Franzen in 2004 (legit 2nd-line FW) to Mantha in 2013, who was Holland's best pick?

Nyquist? Helm? Abedelkader?

Holland has been a terrible drafter. He'll be the first to admit that Zetterberg and Datsyuk were flukes - which is obvious when a 7th rounder turns into an all-star.

The reality is Holland's success was directly tied to the career of the greatest defenceman of all time, who was drafted in the 80s and lead the Wings to their last Cup in 08.

That being said, I think Holland would be a great addition for his trading and re-signing. If there was a structure that had Jim doing the draft, and Holland working the trades and contracts, I'd be more than happy with that.