The primary goal of this site is to provide mature, meaningful discussion about the Vancouver Canucks. However, we all need a break some time so this forum is basically for anything off-topic, off the wall, or to just get something off your chest! This forum is named after poster Creeper, who passed away in July of 2011 and was a long time member of the Canucks message board community.
"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic, and we should stand up and say, "We are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!"
"Bizarrely once again, he [Trump] praised Russia's strongman, Vladimir Putin, even taking the astonishing step of suggesting that he preferred the Russian president to our American president. Now, that is not just unpatriotic and insulting, to the people of our country as well as to our commander in chief, it is scary," Clinton said.
Hillary, yesterday
It's one thing to disagree, another to support your country's arch enemy.
Imagine what McCarthy would have thought of this.....
Strangelove wrote:
Overall foreign relations are at an all-time low under Obamaramadingdong.
How y'all gettin along with the Bear and the Dragon?
In reality, of course, overall foreign relations have improved dramatically under Obama, after hitting rock bottom under Dubya.
Basically, more people have a positive view of The US under Obama than a negative, in all countries polled except for Argentina, Venezuela, Russia, Pakistan and the Middle East:
As for the Russians, they actually liked Obama better than Bush until Putin started annexing parts of the Ukraine.
Now they're upset that the US does not approve of them gobbling up their neighbours.
They want a US president they can manipulate. Thus Putin's support for (and Europe's fear of) Trump.
Last edited by Per on Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:49 am, edited 3 times in total.
China is special. Its view of the US is a bit a rollercoaster. Basically you could say that their view of the US under Obama is almost as dim as it was toward the end of the Bush administration...
It seems a majority of Chinese favour Trump though, as they like his suggestion that the US should stop backing up Japan and South Korea militarily and let them pay for their own defense.
They see this as a great opportunity to strengthen their influence over Asia!
Also, they don't like that Clinton keeps pestering them about human rights. No one has ever heard Trump have such concerns, so that's another point in his favour. http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/07/trump-vs ... tions.html
Not to mention, they know that he may talk the talk, but when it comes down to business, it's all 'bout the money and looking out for number one!
Your link to how the Chinese communist government does not say they favor Trump???????
Why should how other countries and other areas of the world feel about the candidates or the parties, even be considered relevant?
First of all, the graphs may be some what accurate or maybe not so accurate. But more importantly, it's how they feel, meaning, WHAT'S BEST FOR THEM. One could look at it that way.
Probably a good idea....
micky107 wrote:Your link to how the Chinese communist government does not say they favor Trump???????
From that very link:
Still, there's a population within China that is actively rooting for Trump because they think he'll best serve their country's interests, according to Glaser, who cited four aspects of the candidate's history and rhetoric that lead them to that conclusion.
Trump has criticized U.S. alliances with Japan and Korea, suggesting that those countries should be paying for their own defense. If either of those cooperative arrangements is weakened, the argument goes, China may be able to greater assert itself in the region's geopolitics — not to mention the benefits of its local rivals suddenly forced to spend more on defense.
Under Obama, the U.S. has spent more time and money exerting influence in Asia, and many in China have come to see that focus as a threat to their own rising power. In contrast, Trump focuses his rhetoric on the Islamic State and terrorism, leading some in Beijing to conclude he may scale back Obama's pivot to Asia so he can divert assets to the Middle East.
Some in China believe that Trump, who made his name as a businessman before branching out into reality television and politics, would approach foreign policy in a "transactional" manner, according to Glaser. That idea appeals to many in China, she said, because it means everything is up for negotiation — there are no ideological red lines.
Finally, most Chinese expect Clinton to regularly bring up human rights concerns with China, but they "think they'd get a pass" on those issues under Trump. "Who has heard Donald Trump say anything about human rights?" Glaser asked.
A poll in May found that more than 60 percent of mainland and overseas Chinese say they support Trump, while only about 8 percent voiced their preference for Clinton.
micky107 wrote:
Why should how other countries and other areas of the world feel about the candidates or the parties, even be considered relevant?
First of all, the graphs may be some what accurate or maybe not so accurate. But more importantly, it's how they feel, meaning, WHAT'S BEST FOR THEM. One could look at it that way.
Probably a good idea....
Absolutely. As in the Russians being pissed off because the US didn't look the other way.
Just proving the BS statement "foreign relations are at an all-time low" wrong.
Analysis: Syria deal offers hope, but Russia calling shots
If U.S.-backed or other rebels fighting Syrian President Bashar Assad break the cease-fire, Russia could threaten to respond militarily or allow his forces to retaliate.
But if Assad breaks the cease-fire, the U.S. has no clear enforcement stick.
Washington is unlikely to attack Syrian forces, given President Barack Obama's longstanding opposition to entering the war, even after Assad famously crossed Obama's "red line" by using chemical weapons in 2013. Allowing the opposition to launch attacks would only risk reopening a fight that the rebels were losing to Assad's Russian-backed military.
Putin has made Obama his bitch, the rebels are ruing the day they hitched their wagon to Obama's star.
China also obviously has no respect for Obama, nor does Israel.
But as Per points out, Barack is receiving a lot of 'likes' from an increasingly nervous Europe.
And hey, pretty safe to say ISIS absolutely loves the US "commander-in-chief"!
Topper wrote:
Word the other day was Assad is again chlorine bombing civilians.....where's that red line in the sand...oh Vlad's on it of course.
Right, Vlad is on line with the side doing the chlorine bombing. Which makes it all the harder for the US to do anything. And the US ally Turkey is bombing the US supported Kurds...
Oh yeah, even Turkey is flashing Obama the finger... but Europe likes him, that's the main thing.
In fact is there anyone in the Middle East who likes him?
I know for a fact he his absolutely despised in Egypt, Libya, Syria, Palestine, Lebanon, and Jordan.
I'm guessing Iraq and Afghanistan aren't too thrilled with him lately.
But yeah with the world on the brink of WWIII no doubt those Eurosucks are 'liking' USA right about now.
Stumbled and fell at a 9/11 event before her doctors admitted she is being treated for pneumonia......Diagnosis was Friday....but nothing public until she fell on Sunday.
Topper wrote:Stumbled and fell at a 9/11 event before her doctors admitted she is being treated for pneumonia......Diagnosis was Friday....but nothing public until she fell on Sunday.
