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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:27 pm
by Puck
Why does this Subban - Weber deal make any sense for Nashville? They get 3 years younger with PK, but lose defense, and leadership without gaining any offense. Did they get the feeling he might not re-sign? Or, is it just sell high?

Interesting, to say the least.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:28 pm
by Hockey Widow
The only thing I know is that PK was being heavily shopped at the draft. Benning did kick the tires and was willing to give up the earth and the moon. But Benning did not have another high caliber D man to offer back. Edmonton was all over this as well. But they did not have a high caliber D man to offer back. Bergevin was intent on getting back a top D man in exchange and he got what he wanted.

This is a good deal for both teams.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:29 pm
by Zedlee
Hockey Widow wrote:Weber the victim of that offer sheet he signed with the Flyers. He got no trade protection. Subban dumped before his NMC kicks in.

This is a great old fashioned hockey trade.
Aha. I wondered how Weber could have been traded so easily. No trade protection clause. Must be a tough pill for Weber to swallow...he was an icon in Nashville.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:30 pm
by Jovocop
Puck wrote:Why does this Subban - Weber deal make any sense for Nashville? They get 3 years younger with PK, but lose defense, and leadership without gaining any offense. Did they get the feeling he might not re-sign? Or, is it just sell high?

Interesting, to say the least.
The Preds might flip PK in a year or two.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:31 pm
by Hockey Widow
Puck wrote:Why does this Subban - Weber deal make any sense for Nashville? They get 3 years younger with PK, but lose defense, and leadership without gaining any offense. Did they get the feeling he might not re-sign? Or, is it just sell high?

Interesting, to say the least.
Re-sign? Hell Weber is sign until, like, ya 2100,,, :mrgreen:

Why does this make sense? Cap, term remaining, age.

Question is why did Montreal want PK gone so bad.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:31 pm
by ESQ
Hockey Widow wrote:Weber the victim of that offer sheet he signed with the Flyers.
Yeesh, no kidding!

I guess he had automatic one-year trade protection from the offer sheet-match, but that's it.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:33 pm
by Hockey Widow
ESQ wrote:
Hockey Widow wrote:Weber the victim of that offer sheet he signed with the Flyers.
Yeesh, no kidding!

I guess he had automatic one-year trade protection from the offer sheet-match, but that's it.
Preds had the choice of adding it in. They chose not to. Weber and his GM tried to get them too but they refused. And good on them.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:34 pm
by Hockey Widow
General Fanager has crashed with all this activity. They've tweeted out, be patient.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:34 pm
by herb
Yes, why did Montreal want PK gone so bad?

PK is a fan favourite in Montreal and has embraced the city like crazy.

Bergevin is getting roasted for this. This trade doesn't really make any sense from Montreal's perspective.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:36 pm
by Mickey107
Hockey Widow wrote:
Puck wrote:Why does this Subban - Weber deal make any sense for Nashville? They get 3 years younger with PK, but lose defense, and leadership without gaining any offense. Did they get the feeling he might not re-sign? Or, is it just sell high?

Interesting, to say the least.
Re-sign? Hell Weber is sign until, like, ya 2100,,, :mrgreen:

Why does this make sense? Cap, term remaining, age.

Question is why did Montreal want PK gone so bad.
I'm sure PK will say something soon, I'm real curios too!

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:39 pm
by Topper
Hockey Widow wrote:Weber the victim of that offer sheet he signed with the Flyers. He got no trade protection. Subban dumped before his NMC kicks in.

This is a great old fashioned hockey trade.
....and Vancouver vets apparently feel unloved

So what has become of
Fall for Hall
Fail for Nail
Loose for Nuge

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:08 pm
by Diehard1
These trades look terrible for the Oil and Habs repsectively. I don't care about culture change, you have to get equal value or at least close to it for your players. PK is better than Weber right now while being 5 years younger, while Hall is a very good LWer and Larsson is young but still a bit of a project. Doesn't make much sense to me.

Stamkos staying in TBay makes sense, though they'll have some major surgery to do on their roster now.

Assuming Lucic to the Oil is done, and I assume it is, I guess we're going after Eriksson, Brouwer, Ladd et al.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:09 pm
by Hockey Widow
Montreal just inherited a huge cap recapture penalty, potentially.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:13 pm
by gobi
Wow, I went out for lunch, came back, and found out the world blew up.

Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:16 pm
by SKYO
Time to trade with Tampa, they gonna be in cap hell asap with Stamkos signed.

These guys are gonna paid no matter what, probables:

Kucherov $6M-$7M

Hedman $9M, Johnson $6M-$7M per

Killorn.

Next season Palat and Drouin will need new contracts.