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Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:33 pm
by Mickey107
Very cool.

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:50 pm
by rikster
nuckster wrote: Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:17 am JB is a bit of a head-scratcher sometimes. Yes the Pettersen pick was brilliant, while going with Juolevi over Tkachuk was not. Going with the same last place defence corp the following year without making changes? Ugh. It'll be their achilles heel this year and thats on JB.
First off, I don't get the love in with Tkachuk and think he is a much easier type of player to find than a top 2/4 d man is...

Enjoyed a great day of sports yesterday going back and forth between the Yankees and Red Sox and the Whitecaps and the BC Lions and the NHL while at the same time watching the kids in Michigan and Utica on my Ipad...

As bad as the Canucks dmen look on the powerplay, you have to be excited watching Jolevi and Hughes play, especially on the power play...Jolevi in particular made some very subtle moves walking the line which made you think he has some of Pettersson's hockey IQ...

Next year Tryamkin is another year closer to having to decide if he comes back to a much different team than the one he left...

What does the team get in return for trading either Tanev or Edler or both?

I don't focus on what's in Vancouver today, I smile thinking about who will be in Vancouver over the next couple of years...

And suddenly Vancouver becomes a good option for high end free agents, especially given their cap situation..

Take care...

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:01 pm
by Chef Boi RD
rikster wrote: Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:50 pm
nuckster wrote: Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:17 am JB is a bit of a head-scratcher sometimes. Yes the Pettersen pick was brilliant, while going with Juolevi over Tkachuk was not. Going with the same last place defence corp the following year without making changes? Ugh. It'll be their achilles heel this year and thats on JB.
First off, I don't get the love in with Tkachuk and think he is a much easier type of player to find than a top 2/4 d man is...

Enjoyed a great day of sports yesterday going back and forth between the Yankees and Red Sox and the Whitecaps and the BC Lions and the NHL while at the same time watching the kids in Michigan and Utica on my Ipad...

As bad as the Canucks dmen look on the powerplay, you have to be excited watching Jolevi and Hughes play, especially on the power play...Jolevi in particular made some very subtle moves walking the line which made you think he has some of Pettersson's hockey IQ...

Next year Tryamkin is another year closer to having to decide if he comes back to a much different team than the one he left...

What does the team get in return for trading either Tanev or Edler or both?

I don't focus on what's in Vancouver today, I smile thinking about who will be in Vancouver over the next couple of years...

And suddenly Vancouver becomes a good option for high end free agents, especially given their cap situation..

Take care...
I like Juolevi's potential, he's going to be an NHL player and a good one. I just think that where the Canucks were in the rebuild at that draft, a true mess at the time, Tkachuk would have been the better option in rekindling the fan base. The drag wouldn't have been such the drag we've gone through but that being said, I believe that when Juolevi has evolved into a full time NHL'er we will be quite happy to have him back there. The impatient fan base and media can be quite draining when it comes to their impatience with Juolevi.

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:25 pm
by 2Fingers
RoyalDude wrote: Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:01 pm
I like Juolevi's potential, he's going to be an NHL player and a good one. I just think that where the Canucks were in the rebuild at that draft, a true mess at the time, Tkachuk would have been the better option in rekindling the fan base. The drag wouldn't have been such the drag we've gone through but that being said, I believe that when Juolevi has evolved into a full time NHL'er we will be quite happy to have him back there. The impatient fan base and media can be quite draining when it comes to their impatience with Juolevi.
I sure hope so, what do you see in him to think he will become an NHL D man?

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:41 pm
by Mickey107
RoyalDude wrote: Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:01 pm
rikster wrote: Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:50 pm
nuckster wrote: Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:17 am JB is a bit of a head-scratcher sometimes. Yes the Pettersen pick was brilliant, while going with Juolevi over Tkachuk was not. Going with the same last place defence corp the following year without making changes? Ugh. It'll be their achilles heel this year and thats on JB.
First off, I don't get the love in with Tkachuk and think he is a much easier type of player to find than a top 2/4 d man is...

Enjoyed a great day of sports yesterday going back and forth between the Yankees and Red Sox and the Whitecaps and the BC Lions and the NHL while at the same time watching the kids in Michigan and Utica on my Ipad...

As bad as the Canucks dmen look on the powerplay, you have to be excited watching Jolevi and Hughes play, especially on the power play...Jolevi in particular made some very subtle moves walking the line which made you think he has some of Pettersson's hockey IQ...

Next year Tryamkin is another year closer to having to decide if he comes back to a much different team than the one he left...

What does the team get in return for trading either Tanev or Edler or both?

I don't focus on what's in Vancouver today, I smile thinking about who will be in Vancouver over the next couple of years...

And suddenly Vancouver becomes a good option for high end free agents, especially given their cap situation..

Take care...
I like Juolevi's potential, he's going to be an NHL player and a good one. I just think that where the Canucks were in the rebuild at that draft, a true mess at the time, Tkachuk would have been the better option in rekindling the fan base. The drag wouldn't have been such the drag we've gone through but that being said, I believe that when Juolevi has evolved into a full time NHL'er we will be quite happy to have him back there. The impatient fan base and media can be quite draining when it comes to their impatience with Juolevi.
OK, Ya just had to put in that last sentence. :(
Once again, I think he can slot right the F--k into this defense on this Canuck team right now. Pretty sure he's weaned!
Doubt he breaks or gets one of them thar complexes or head things stuff.

Seriously, I think he would be ahead getting to know his team mates at the NHL level. Why not adjust now?
As I said before, that adjustment will have to happen now or next year or the year after till he's 30.
I am not impatient !!! Dammit !!!!!

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:59 pm
by Carl Yagro
Mick, Olli is going to get called up this season, guaranteed. Book it. I also see Gaudette and maybe even Dahlen getting a cup of coffee.

They just gotta make sure they cook the fuck outta the kids down in Utica.

Reefmeister, watch those links man. You don't see the smarts and skill there in both zones that's translatable to today's NHL?! The Keeping guy just posted stats that are an analyst's wet dream.

The only thing challenging OJ is NHL speed in decision making and NHL strength.

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:12 pm
by Mickey107
Hank wrote: Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:59 pm Mick, Olli is going to get called up this season, guaranteed. Book it. I also see Gaudette and maybe even Dahlen getting a cup of coffee.

They just gotta make sure they cook the fuck outta the kids down in Utica.

Reefmeister, watch those links man. You don't see the smarts and skill there in both zones that's translatable to today's NHL?! The Keeping guy just posted stats that are an analyst's wet dream.

The only thing challenging OJ is NHL speed in decision making and NHL strength.
I actually do know that. ;)
Dude was being a tad preachy, in a ha ha way.
Dude: Laughing with you not at you, right?

Although, judging from the last millennia, few years, we need to manage our defense men better.
Each team has three press box seats and I most assuredly think the Canucks should always allocate two of them to defense men.
Even though no player wants, or should want, to sit, cant help thinking of Tanev and how worn down he gets sometimes.

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:53 am
by Mickey107
Can you imagine a year earlier than expected? Awesome!

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Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:15 am
by Blob Mckenzie
micky107 wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:53 am Can you imagine a year earlier than expected? Awesome!

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What indications are there that he’s hinted of coming back?

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:23 am
by Mickey107
Blob, I said imagine.
I have heard one maybe, could possibly, but there is no-way I can consider it reliable enough to make anything other than a hope so.

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:56 am
by SKYO
Word Nikita T changed his instagram profile pic to him in a Canucks jersey today.

Homeboy wants to follow his fellow countrymen Kovalchuk and Nichushkin back to the best hockey league in the known universe.

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:07 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
SKYO wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:56 am Word Nikita T changed his instagram profile pic to him in a Canucks jersey today.

Homeboy wants to follow his fellow countrymen Kovalchuk and Nichushkin back to the best hockey league in the known universe.
Cool story

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:41 pm
by Mickey107
IF; Hughes, Juolevi and Tryamkin were all regulars, what a different blue line.

Who would be gone?
Del Zotto, Hutton, Stecher, Pouliott ? There would'n't be much coming back for any of those.
Well guess Hutton just goes lookin for employment next year anyways, although he'd probably re-up for peanuts.

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:52 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
It would be different that’s for sure. Probably more dynamic and long term likely quite a bit better. But in the present the D wouldn’t be a ton better. Pouliott is the most improved player in the first seven games in.

IF the big meathead comes back and that’s a HUGE IF.

Re up Edler and deal Tanev and Gudbranson. Sign Myers as a ufa.

Edler Myers
Juolevi Tryamkin
Hughes Pouliott

Re: The Rebuild...

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:16 pm
by SKYO
Next year go with:

Quinn Hughes - Chris Tanev

Nikita Tryamkin - Nikita Zaitsev (lol yes), someone to keep the NK happy so he doesn't bolt back to the KHL, and they can communicate better on the ice.

Olli Juolevi - Erik Gudbranson

Pouliot - Chatfield

Pick up some picks moving out Edler, MDZ and Huts.
Jett Woo and Chatter can move up in the top6 D in 2,3 years, with Brisebois the new Pouliot.