Going forward ?
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I haven't seen Tavares play that much, as most of you probably haven't either. I think this guy is not all he's cracked up to be. He can score like a mutha (at the junior level), but he's not a particularly well-rounded player. His skating is sub-par and the rest of his game away from the opposition net has plenty of holes. Some of these will be correctable, but some are there to stay. He is not a Stamkos-type player who is a force on the move with the puck and has defenders scrambling to keep position on him. Tavares is a player who can finish up within the 20 foot range with great regularity in junior, but I'm not entirely sure this will automatically happen at the NHL level. For teams thinking about tanking next season to get their hands on him: Proceed with caution.antro wrote:...maybe MG's bold plan is to compete with Toronto for Tavares?
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No, buy him out today. In any scenario, he's not going to be a factor with this team going forward, so no sense having him hanging around this season. If Hordichuk needs someone to ride shotgun, have Brown come in and help out.Jovorock wrote:I can't see Cowan back with us signing Hordichuk.
Cowan = out.
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He's not even a shoe-in for the 1st pick overall....Victor Hedman from Sweden is the top blueline prospect and could challenge Tavares by the time the season is over. Tavares is the sexier pick only because he's Canadian and we've been hearing abo him since he was 15. Look what happened to Daniel Cleary and Angelo Espositio by the time their names were called.Sid Dithers wrote:I haven't seen Tavares play that much, as most of you probably haven't either. I think this guy is not all he's cracked up to be. He can score like a mutha (at the junior level), but he's not a particularly well-rounded player. His skating is sub-par and the rest of his game away from the opposition net has plenty of holes. Some of these will be correctable, but some are there to stay. He is not a Stamkos-type player who is a force on the move with the puck and has defenders scrambling to keep position on him. Tavares is a player who can finish up within the 20 foot range with great regularity in junior, but I'm not entirely sure this will automatically happen at the NHL level. For teams thinking about tanking next season to get their hands on him: Proceed with caution.antro wrote:...maybe MG's bold plan is to compete with Toronto for Tavares?
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Re: Going forward ?
Worst second line in history?sic puppy wrote:With no particular pairings:
Sedin/Sedin/Pyatt (8.725)
Raymond/Wellwood/Pettinger (2.88)
Burrows/Kesler/Cowan (2.958)
Hordichuk/Johnson/XX (1.9)
Ohlund/Bxa (7.250)
Salo/Mitchell (7.0)
Edler/Krajicek (1.650)
Luongo/Sanford (7.4)
Total 39.763
Does not include two way players or Chouinard buy out.
G & D look solid
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Re: Going forward ?
Dont we have Shannon under contract as well?sic puppy wrote:update with signing of Bernier:sic puppy wrote:With no particular pairings:
Sedin/Sedin/Pyatt (8.725)
Raymond/Wellwood/Pettinger (2.88)
Burrows/Kesler/Cowan (2.958)
Hordichuk/Johnson/XX (1.9)
Sedin/Sedin/Bernier
Raymond/Wellwood/Pyatt
Burrows/Kesler/Pettinger
Hordichuk/Johnson/Cowan
The issue still is legitimate RW positions. With Pyatt & Pettinger playing their off wings.
Jaffray, Hansen & Brown (all RW currently with the Moose) could provide some competition this year
Slot in Sundin and it's not a bad line-up going into spring training.
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He is also from Ornskoldsvik, Sweden. 6’5 and 220 pounds. Considered to be the Swedish Chris Pronger.ClamRussel wrote:He's not even a shoe-in for the 1st pick overall....Victor Hedman from Sweden is the top blueline prospect and could challenge Tavares by the time the season is over. Tavares is the sexier pick only because he's Canadian and we've been hearing abo him since he was 15. Look what happened to Daniel Cleary and Angelo Espositio by the time their names were called.Sid Dithers wrote:I haven't seen Tavares play that much, as most of you probably haven't either. I think this guy is not all he's cracked up to be. He can score like a mutha (at the junior level), but he's not a particularly well-rounded player. His skating is sub-par and the rest of his game away from the opposition net has plenty of holes. Some of these will be correctable, but some are there to stay. He is not a Stamkos-type player who is a force on the move with the puck and has defenders scrambling to keep position on him. Tavares is a player who can finish up within the 20 foot range with great regularity in junior, but I'm not entirely sure this will automatically happen at the NHL level. For teams thinking about tanking next season to get their hands on him: Proceed with caution.antro wrote:...maybe MG's bold plan is to compete with Toronto for Tavares?
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Re: Going forward ?
Update with Demitra signing:sic puppy wrote: update with signing of Bernier:
Sedin/Sedin/Bernier
Raymond/Wellwood/Pyatt
Burrows/Kesler/Pettinger
Hordichuk/Johnson/Cowan
The issue still is legitimate RW positions. With Pyatt & Pettinger playing their off wings.
Jaffray, Hansen & Brown (all RW currently with the Moose) could provide some competition this year
Slot in Sundin and it's not a bad line-up going into spring training.
Sedin/Sedin/Bernier
Pyatt/Wellwood/Demitra
Burrows/Kesler/Pettinger
Hordichuk/Johnson/Cowan
Now...IF....Sundin is signed, Gillis has any number of options.
Including (I dare say) trading the Sedins for a top 6 forward + . Which would also free up cap space.
The other options certainly involve prospects vying for a spot or 2.
In any event, many more options than we saw on July one.
I agree, however, as I mentioned in the beginning, these are players who are currently signed.dangler wrote:I think it's a bit of a stretch to include Wellwood in the top 6
I've also bumped Raymond in favour of Pyatt on the left with Demitra playing on RW.
With Sundin in the picture, it makes the signing of Wellwood a head scratcher, unless he can fill in on the wing someplace. But, those are the options that AV will have to play with.
I slightly disagree. Even if someone like Wellwood gets the "short end of the stick" due to too much depth, I still support Gillis' signing.sic puppy wrote:dangler wrote:
With Sundin in the picture, it makes the signing of Wellwood a head scratcher, unless he can fill in on the wing someplace.
As we saw last season, a team can easily get decimated by injuries. If someone on the Canucks get hurt (and Wellworth is the odd man out), the Canucks can finally feel confident about the fact that someone can step in and NOT look out of place.
If and when Sundin signs here, this team isn't going to have any glaring weaknesses (atleast on paper). Although there are probably a few teams in the West that have more overall talent than the Canucks (even if we get Sundin), I think that the Canucks and the Wings are perhaps the ONLY two teams that don't have any 'red flags' (i.e. for example, teams like San Jose and Anaheim might have more talent than us, but they might still have a lot of question marks in terms of where their offensive production will come from).
If Gillis does sign Sundin, it will also mark a new personal record for me (i.e. in less than one week, I will have gone from wanting to throw Gillis off a bridge, to wanting to hug him repeatedly ).