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Michael Cammalleri

Post by mattola » Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:08 pm

there are rumours (Spectors) that have the Kings Shopping Michael Cammalleri.

They are looking for goaltending Depth.

Would Cory Schneider and a 1st round pick be enough for him? I would love to have this guy in our lineup.

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Post by newostar » Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:40 pm

That would be nice, but Nonis isn't going to make any major deals this year.

He is a disciple of the Burke deadline day school of thought.

Maybe in the summer.

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Post by levelheaded » Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:16 pm

The Kings need a goaltender, not a goaltending prospect. They have Jonathan Bernier in the pipes, all they need is a stop-gap until he is ready to take over as a full time #1 in 3 or 4 years. Schneider isn't the answer for them. They'll want someone like Emery who can hold the fort for a while, and mentor Bernier when he starts becoming a #1A.

If the Sens hadn't just traded for a Winger, I wouldn't have been surprised to see Emery and perhaps a pick or prospect traded to LA for Cammalleri.

Although Killa Cam would look sweet in the Green and Blue, I just don't see it happening.

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Post by the toucan kid » Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:11 pm

Yeah, he's an interesting player, but Schneider and a 1st won't do it. This is the problem with us dealing away our picks for odds and ends, we just don't have the girth of young talent to even assemble a package at the moment. So this year, lets just save it, so if with our cap space next year, we're on the verge, we might be able to land some real assets.

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Post by Cornuck » Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:36 pm

Is there anyone smaller we can deal for?

He's a good player, but I don't see us needed another small guy, and as mentioned above, the Kings have their future goaltending situation sealed - it just won't come soon enough.
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Post by jchockey » Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:35 am

With the way the Kings' goaltending looks these days, they might consider Sanford a #1.

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Post by Madcombinepilot » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:09 am

That would be nice, but Nonis isn't going to make any major deals this year.
wow. you are a fountain of positive thought on any topic concerning the managment of the team. Every thread you post in, you make the same type of comment.

I am just curious, do you read other peoples minds and know what they think, or just have the greater mind power talents to simply control those people to do and act as you want? The only reason I say this, is because all the posts you make are grand sweeping , all encomapssing statements which are ususally not true.

And as to the 'do nothing like Burke' comment, other than adding Brad May at the deadline, I would say that worked out pretty darned well for him last year, so I wouldn't be getting my panties in a knot if not a lot happened at the deadline this year, beacuse simply making moves to 'be players' at the deadline usually doesn't work out so welll ( see last years Islanders, Preds and Thrashers)
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Post by jchockey » Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:27 pm

I'd have to agree with newostar here, and say that DN won't be making any big deals come trade deadline day.

Burke has the luxury of not doing anything on deadline day because he inherited a very, very good team and re-signed players in the offseason that he knew could perform in the right situation.

Nonis does not have the luxury Burke has, but I'd have to say over the past two years he has failed to recognize that the pipeline is bare and our pro squad lacks offensive oomph. History dictates that DN stands pat yet again this year.

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Post by the toucan kid » Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:13 pm

I don't like the assumption that because we haven't made a big deal at the deadline that Nonis has failed to recognize our offense sucks. They're are 30 teams, and maybe 5 legitimate offensive players available, you guys do the math. Even if Nonis wants to do something it doesn't necessarily mean he can. I'm not even really sure that it's a fair grounds for criticism. When the big fish was around last time he pounced (Luongo, clearly), he's in on Forsberg. You cannot say that he's all about standing pat, it's just not a matter of wishing for something and it coming to pass.

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Post by magnum44 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:26 am

I think Nonis has done a pretty decent job on deadline day the past few years. Hindsight is always 20/20 but nonis has always done a few deas on deadline day. They weren't of the blockbuster type, but always resonable value obtaining guys that woulda/shoulda/coulda helped the cause. As others have mentioned Dn has certain constraints to work against (cap room, lack of prospect depth) but he hasn't made any big mistakes either. Given the state of this franchise I think he done a pretty good balancing act between helping the team now and into the future. If we get healthy by the deadline it will be like landing 5 new guys anyway. Everbody always wants a big splash but it isn't really prudent to over mortgage the future. Personally I'd be happy with a guy like Ryder coming over which could be doable. At the rate we're going it might even be wise to be sellers at the top of the market. Hate to say it but I don't see us really doing much more than last year, but with a healthy team, a little bit of cap room and a few more pieces I think we could be a real contender next year.
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Post by jchockey » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:00 am

the toucan kid wrote:I don't like the assumption that because we haven't made a big deal at the deadline that Nonis has failed to recognize our offense sucks. They're are 30 teams, and maybe 5 legitimate offensive players available, you guys do the math. Even if Nonis wants to do something it doesn't necessarily mean he can. I'm not even really sure that it's a fair grounds for criticism. When the big fish was around last time he pounced (Luongo, clearly), he's in on Forsberg. You cannot say that he's all about standing pat, it's just not a matter of wishing for something and it coming to pass.
I don't think it's the lack of big deadline deals, but more so the choice of off-season signings like Ritchie and Isbister. I would have to agree that there are only a handful of players made available to us (no way we'd land Jokinen, Kaberle, or Tanguay) and this year there seems to be a LOT more buyers than sellers (much like last year... could this be the parity Bettman wanted?).

I understand the hesitancy by DN to part with players/picks/prospects for playoff rentals, but can you really defend him in his off-season signings?

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Post by the toucan kid » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:25 am

Well he's signed a bunch of fourth line players to play on the third/fourth line. The only signing I really dislike is Cowan, but these are all trivial moves. You will remember of course that those guys weren't signed until all the big fish were off the market.

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Post by Larionov » Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:48 pm

levelheaded wrote:They'll want someone like Emery who can hold the fort for a while, and mentor Bernier when he starts becoming a #1A.
Yeah, because Ray Emery would be a great mentor for a young goalie. "Come with me, nephew, while I show you how to crash your SUV, miss team flights, be late for practice, get into fights at practice, and be involved in road rage incidents." :shock:

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Post by DonCherry4PM » Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:48 pm

jchockey wrote:
the toucan kid wrote:I don't like the assumption that because we haven't made a big deal at the deadline that Nonis has failed to recognize our offense sucks. They're are 30 teams, and maybe 5 legitimate offensive players available, you guys do the math. Even if Nonis wants to do something it doesn't necessarily mean he can. I'm not even really sure that it's a fair grounds for criticism. When the big fish was around last time he pounced (Luongo, clearly), he's in on Forsberg. You cannot say that he's all about standing pat, it's just not a matter of wishing for something and it coming to pass.
I don't think it's the lack of big deadline deals, but more so the choice of off-season signings like Ritchie and Isbister. I would have to agree that there are only a handful of players made available to us (no way we'd land Jokinen, Kaberle, or Tanguay) and this year there seems to be a LOT more buyers than sellers (much like last year... could this be the parity Bettman wanted?).

I understand the hesitancy by DN to part with players/picks/prospects for playoff rentals, but can you really defend him in his off-season signings?
Agreed. I have no problem with DN's lack of deadline deals. Usually they are egregiously overpriced, and are moves of desperation not thoughtful contemplation. That said, DN has known since our tanking in the second round of the playoffs last year that our primary concern was to improve the offense of this team. My qualm is that as of yet he has done absolutely nothing to rectify that.

Maybe another Luongoesque deal hasn't been thrown in his lap. Maybe teams don't really want to part with their offensive talent. Maybe he has been crossing his fingers and hoping that Grabner would turn into the second coming of Bure. I don't know. Whatever the case he has not given this team what has been a blatantly apparent need for almost a year.

Thus I don't have a problem that he isn't breaking the bank to add a few overpriced players at the deadline. I just think he should have done something in the past nine months of more import than swapping Ritchie for Greene, Isbister for Bulis, Miller for Sopel, etc. While such moves could arguably have been minor improvements, they have done squat at rectifying the primary issue.
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Post by jchockey » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:08 am

DonCherry4PM wrote:
jchockey wrote:
the toucan kid wrote:I don't like the assumption that because we haven't made a big deal at the deadline that Nonis has failed to recognize our offense sucks. They're are 30 teams, and maybe 5 legitimate offensive players available, you guys do the math. Even if Nonis wants to do something it doesn't necessarily mean he can. I'm not even really sure that it's a fair grounds for criticism. When the big fish was around last time he pounced (Luongo, clearly), he's in on Forsberg. You cannot say that he's all about standing pat, it's just not a matter of wishing for something and it coming to pass.
I don't think it's the lack of big deadline deals, but more so the choice of off-season signings like Ritchie and Isbister. I would have to agree that there are only a handful of players made available to us (no way we'd land Jokinen, Kaberle, or Tanguay) and this year there seems to be a LOT more buyers than sellers (much like last year... could this be the parity Bettman wanted?).

I understand the hesitancy by DN to part with players/picks/prospects for playoff rentals, but can you really defend him in his off-season signings?
Maybe another Luongoesque deal hasn't been thrown in his lap. Maybe teams don't really want to part with their offensive talent. Maybe he has been crossing his fingers and hoping that Grabner would turn into the second coming of Bure. I don't know. Whatever the case he has not given this team what has been a blatantly apparent need for almost a year.

Thus I don't have a problem that he isn't breaking the bank to add a few overpriced players at the deadline. I just think he should have done something in the past nine months of more import than swapping Ritchie for Greene, Isbister for Bulis, Miller for Sopel, etc. While such moves could arguably have been minor improvements, they have done squat at rectifying the primary issue.
Do we want a GM who needs to have the right player to be "throw into his lap"? Luongo had been rumoured to be on the move ever since Keenan took over and it just so happened that we had a Keenan-type player (Bertuzzi) who was overpaid for by the Panthers. Do we really have to wait another 10-odd years before the next big trade falls into Nonis' lap?

As I've said before swapping Ritchie for Green, Isbister for Bulis, etc. I feel has been more of a product of DN choosing not to lose anything rather than improve.

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