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Do you think Bertuzzi got off too lightly

Yes
1
4%
No
14
56%
Just right
7
28%
Who cares hes free again
3
12%
 
Total votes : 25

Postby ClamRussel » Sat Jan 08, 2005 3:46 am

Well said Jyrki!
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Postby the Cunning Linguist » Sat Jan 08, 2005 9:09 am

Jyrki21 wrote:There's been a fair bit of suggestion -- especially coming from the U.S. media -- that Bertuzzi got off lightly, but those people simply do not understand the BC or Canadian court systems. A first-time assaulter, who poses no discernible threat to the general public, would not often get slapped with much more. Perhaps a suspended sentence rather than a conditional discharge (means you do get a criminal record for a while, but not much else), but people who thought he would 'do serious time' have no conception of the criminal justice system.

Canadian judges are loathe to send people to jail... you have to do something pretty darn serious to go these days. To expect someone in Bertuzzi's position, but without the celebrity status or hockey context to have gotten a stiff punishment is unrealistic. Same goes for any punishment much stiffer than the bread-'n'-butter conditional discharge.

Moreover, the bozos who are indicating that BC judges somehow favored Bertuzzi or imposed a double-standard as compared to McSorley (disregarding the fact that it was a different charge and that there was never any pileup on top of Donald Brashear to increase the damage) are making an extremely serious and insulting allegation. These people -- most of whom have never set foot in BC, let alone a BC courtroom -- are suggesting that our judges are such rabid hockey fans, that they can't help but allow their fanship to interfere with their jobs in sentencing. Give me a break... our bench may have problems, and it may periodically be swayed by legitimate politics, but a teenage infatuation with sports stars is not one of them.

Bertuzzi got what anyone else is his position would have gotten. If Moore's injuries had not turned out so harsh -- as a combination of the punch, an unusually quick bout of unconsciousness, and the pileup started by Andrei Nikolishin -- we wouldn't have even thought twice about the incident. And the same goes for any Average Joe on the street.


What do you think you are, some kinda lawyer or sumpin'? Oh wait....nm,

J21, if you don't know something, just say so; you don't have to make stuff up... :P
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Postby Mozy » Sat Jan 08, 2005 10:29 am

shouldnt you be supporting your OTP bud and the stuf he "makes up" :lol:
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Postby randymeeks » Sat Jan 08, 2005 10:37 pm

Bertuzzi got what anyone else is his position would have gotten. If Moore's injuries had not turned out so harsh -- as a combination of the punch, an unusually quick bout of unconsciousness, and the pileup started by Andrei Nikolishin -- we wouldn't have even thought twice about the incident. And the same goes for any Average Joe on the street.



I couldn't have said it any better myself, Jyrki21.

It's laughable to think that an American would say that our criminal justice system is biased when the U.S. brought us the O.J. Simpson trial. :lol:
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Postby Jyrki21 » Sun Jan 09, 2005 12:54 pm

feritflame wrote:shouldnt you be supporting your OTP bud and the stuf he "makes up" :lol:

Aw, he's just razzing me because 1) he knows law is more interesting than insurance, and therefore he's jealous :lol: and 2) I'm better at bubble-hockey than he is.

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Postby the Cunning Linguist » Sun Jan 09, 2005 5:06 pm

Jyrki21 wrote:
feritflame wrote:shouldnt you be supporting your OTP bud and the stuf he "makes up" :lol:

Aw, he's just razzing me because 1) he knows law is more interesting than insurance, and therefore he's jealous


Byte your tongue... Everything is more interesting than insurance. Don't single out 'law' since you know I find just about everything is more interesting than insurance.

Jyrki21 wrote: and 2) I'm better at bubble-hockey than he is.


Just keep on whistling, Delaware-boy... I absolutely own you in bubble hockey; even thumped you in your own backyard...

Jyrki's a good guy...






... As lawyers go... :twisted:

Anyway, if you want to see the measure of a man, check out Jyrki21's Denouement (or however you spell it...) in the Canucks forum on OTP after they bowed out to Calgary... A lot of it probably won't mean much but it had the entire board in e-stitches....
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Postby Mozy » Sun Jan 09, 2005 5:23 pm

oooo controversy, just what this forum needs :twisted:
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