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Postby cerios » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:18 pm

I don't consider Stan Smyl to be any more "classy" then Bure. The guy is as stupid as a sack of hammers. I almost feel sorry for him every time I see him speak publicly. Bure did what any sensible person being abused by thier employeer would do, he went to look for another one.

As for Bure not doing anything after he left vancouver...

In his first full season (74 games) he lead the league in goal scoring by 15 goals with 58. In a season when nobody else scored 45, he scored 58 in 74 games. In the next season, he scored 59 goal again leading the league in goals. He did this on a Florida team that had for all practical purposes no center.

Bure may very well be the most naturally gifted goal scorer in league history. Its a real shame the way his career wound up, because in a different circumstance he could very well have been the first player to score 100 goals in a season.
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Postby JamesOwnzSam11 » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:28 pm

Don't forget he was only 2 points back of Jagr for the art ross one season.
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Postby Kowch » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:50 pm

cerios wrote:I don't consider Stan Smyl to be any more "classy" then Bure. The guy is as stupid as a sack of hammers. I almost feel sorry for him every time I see him speak publicly. Bure did what any sensible person being abused by thier employeer would do, he went to look for another one.


Abused? What exactly are you talking about? He was one of the higher paid players in the league, adored by fans and his team.

Bure may very well be the most naturally gifted goal scorer in league history.


*cough* Lemieux *cough*

Its a real shame the way his career wound up, because in a different circumstance he could very well have been the first player to score 100 goals in a season.


I really doubt that.
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Postby Meerschaum » Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:15 pm

When somebody else breaks Tiger Williams' record for leading the team in both goals and penalties, then we can talk about that player being the "greatest Canuck".

Bure? Naslund? Linden?

Yeah, they've collected a few points in their day. But could they have gone toe-to-toe with Tiger?

I think not.

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Postby Cookie La Rue » Sat Oct 21, 2006 3:40 am

"And if you try to cross him he will put a hurt on you" :mrgreen:

It's a song line from The Hansons (NomeansNo) about Tiger Williams. Great stick rider btw.
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Postby JamesOwnzSam11 » Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:07 am

Meerschaum wrote:When somebody else breaks Tiger Williams' record for leading the team in both goals and penalties, then we can talk about that player being the "greatest Canuck".

Bure? Naslund? Linden?

Yeah, they've collected a few points in their day. But could they have gone toe-to-toe with Tiger?

I think not.

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Williams couldn't take a Bure elbow.
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Postby rockalt » Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:25 am

cerios wrote:As for Bure not doing anything after he left vancouver...

In his first full season (74 games) he lead the league in goal scoring by 15 goals with 58. In a season when nobody else scored 45, he scored 58 in 74 games. In the next season, he scored 59 goal again leading the league in goals. He did this on a Florida team that had for all practical purposes no center.

Bure may very well be the most naturally gifted goal scorer in league history. Its a real shame the way his career wound up, because in a different circumstance he could very well have been the first player to score 100 goals in a season.


I acknowledged that Bure had two great years after leaving the Canucks but the point is that the vast majority of his great playing years came with the Canucks because soon after he was taken down by injuries. It really is a shame how his career ended. What, did he play 20 games with the Rangers or something? I don't even remember if he played at all in the playoffs with Florida or NY.

The point is, Pavel Bure is clearly more identifiable as a Vancouver Canuck than a Florida Panther, or *aghast* a New York Ranger.

By the way, what's up with your pic JamesOwnzSam11? Why would any Canuck fan have a picture of Messier hoisting the cup as a Ranger????????? I mean, it's fine if you like the guy but that's probably one of the most painful memories in Canuck history. Just seems odd to me, to say the least.
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Postby cerios » Sat Oct 21, 2006 1:02 pm

Abused? What exactly are you talking about? He was one of the higher paid players in the league, adored by fans and his team.


I dunno maybe the fact that he was owed a years salary and the Canucks despite admitting at the time they owed the money to Bure refused to pay him? How about the the dozen times that Bure was accused of ludicrous things that were clearly untrue in retrospect that the team never said a word in defense of him? How about the fact that he asked for a trade to be made quietly then went out and worked his ass off like he always did for almost a year and a half in order not to tie the hands of the team that had screwed him over time and again?

Bure was easily the most abused sports superstar I have ever even conceived of, its insane the way he was treated here.

*cough* Lemieux *cough*


While I consider Mario to be the most purely gifted hockey player (and maybe athlete period) of all time I don't know if I would put him with Bure for the pure purpose of goal scoring, however I will point out that I put perhaps as I would also consider Mario, Bossy, Wayne, and Esposito as major contenders for that crown.

I really doubt that.


Bure in the mid 80's with a decent centermen could very well have hit 100 goals. I can't think of another player that had what Bure had, he was simply a significantly better version of Lafluer.
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Postby randymeeks » Sun Oct 22, 2006 1:20 am

Bure in the mid 80's with a decent centermen could very well have hit 100 goals. I can't think of another player that had what Bure had, he was simply a significantly better version of Lafluer.



In the 80's? I certainly believe in that era that Bure could have scored 100 goals with a really good centreman. But not in the 90's.

Try to imagine Gretzky and Bure together on the same line in the 80's for a second.... yikes. :shock:
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