Fred wrote:Didn't Hansen a 9th round pick score last night ?. Mason was a 2nd round was he not as were Vincent and Ellis Plante. Koltsov is a 2nd round pick. You can't blame the the scout if the players don't sign He just identifies the talent
DavidPratt_ wrote:Fred wrote:Didn't Hansen a 9th round pick score last night ?. Mason was a 2nd round was he not as were Vincent and Ellis Plante. Koltsov is a 2nd round pick. You can't blame the the scout if the players don't sign He just identifies the talent
Delorme has done a solid job as Chief Scout since he replaced Mike Penney. Delorme has unearthed some decent talent where the Canucks' drafting position was a lot worse than when Penney was drafting (a lot higher).
One thing that does concern me is that Nonis traded a lot of early draft picks last season (Carney, Weinrich deals). In a salary-cap driven league, having cheap young talent around is crucial.
Daniel Rahimi, D
82nd overall â€“ Bjorkloven (Sweden)
Two years ago, the Canucks turned heads on draft day by selecting a little-known defenseman from Northern Sweden. The Canucks did the same thing with the draft in GM Place, selecting an unknown defensive prospect from Sweden. While the team went for a big offensive blueliner last time, Swedish scout Thomas Gradin has found almost the polar opposite in Rahimi, a big, almost purely defensive, defenseman. The Canucks are very impressed with his leadership skills and said that they believe he has a chance at being a leader on the Swedish World Junior team. He is not a risky type of player, and the team felt that it was necessary to use a high pick on Rahimi, despite having limited viewing of him outside of Gradin and that he was eligible to be taken in last yearâ€™s draft.
Delorme on Rahimi: â€œThomas Gradin was more of an influence on us taking him because he had seen this kid a lot more viewings than we did. I saw him once there in St. Petersburg and I was very happy to see the size and his mobility. He plays pretty much a pretty safe game. Thereâ€™s nothing great in any one area, but heâ€™s 6â€™3 and the chances are pretty good that heâ€™s going to make the World Junior team next year for Sweden.â€
Swedish Scout Thomas Gradin: â€œHe for sure has the upside to do that (be a top four defenseman). Thatâ€™s sort of hard to tell though. As a kid, heâ€™s not really a kid in that meaning, heâ€™s a grown up person for being at that young age. You donâ€™t really need to put a lot more muscle on this guy because heâ€™s not a slim guy, but he skates well enough to play in this league, the new National Hockey League as they say. So the only thing that he might, that he will not do as of today is chip in on the PP. On the other hand you need to have the guys who play the penalty kill too. Thatâ€™s how I see him anyhow today.â€
Canucks.com wrote:Alexander Edler
3rd Round - 91st Overall
Defence - 6â€™3" - 194lbs
Club: Jamtland (SWE Jr.)
Born: Ostersund, Sweden - 04/21/86
The Canucks didn't initially have a second round pick after trading the 61st spot to the Penguins for Johan Hedberg last August, but Thomas Gradin urged Nonis to trade up for the 91st slot to get a little-known defender playing in a third-tier league in Northern Sweden named Alexander Edler.
"Thomas saw him and had a gut feeling for him. And we have enough faith in our scouts to rely on their judgment."
According to Delorme, Gradin got a call last year from a friend who said, "You have to come and see this kid play." Gradin took a lengthy train ride north and spent four hours in a cramped arena waiting to see Edler. When he finally did get a look, Gradin wasn't disappointed.
"We rank prospects according to specific categories," says Delorme. "And this kid filled the offense category, the defense category, the powerplay, penalty kill and the compete category. Those are some pretty good credentials. There aren't that many kids in this draft who filled the categories like that."
The opportunity to pick Edler cost the Canucks their third round pick next year, but it proved a worthwhile move. The Detroit Red Wings were one of only four other teams to scout the 6-foot-3, 194-pound defender and it's likely they had Edler in their sights with the 97th pick.
Edler has agreed to play for MODO in the senior league next season.
Fred wrote:Hey just like every other mnagment team, and we all fall in to a similar pattern. You can't watch every game from every league in every country, but dollars to doughnuts any perspective pick will have been watched and agreed to byD elorme. It's clearly naive to believe Delorme only covers vancouver and Burnaby. He travels to Europe frequently to watch the player recommeneded by HIS staff.
Burke appointed Delorme for good reason and DN concured
apparently Kevin Lowe went out of his way to compliment DN on the selection of this guy & when i spoke to Delorme he told me he wa basically a new age NHL type, skill oozing from every porse nad the ability to use at top speed. But yes he does need extra weight and I think we tend to look at ourselves and say, that shouldn't be a problem but for some it actually isI wasn't a fan of Mason Raymond
Fred wrote:apparently Kevin Lowe went out of his way to compliment DN on the selection of this guy & when i spoke to Delorme he told me he wa basically a new age NHL type, skill oozing from every porse nad the ability to use at top speed. But yes he does need extra weight and I think we tend to look at ourselves and say, that shouldn't be a problem but for some it actually isI wasn't a fan of Mason Raymond
:roll:DavidPratt_ wrote:not one but TWO excellent goalies in Giguere and Bryzgalov.
SRsez wrote::roll:DavidPratt_ wrote:not one but TWO excellent goalies in Giguere and Bryzgalov.
That's a bit much. Giguere is excellence on par with Cloutier. Bryzgalov still remains to be seen.
Neither is on level with Luongo, much less Brodeur, who remains the standard for exellence.
DavidPratt_ wrote:I agree that neither one is a superstar, but come on! Who would you rather have? Cloutier/Auld (what Burke had in Vancouver) or Giguere/Bryzgalov??
*CanucksForLife* wrote:DavidPratt_ wrote:I agree that neither one is a superstar, but come on! Who would you rather have? Cloutier/Auld (what Burke had in Vancouver) or Giguere/Bryzgalov??
Prety obvious there. Giguere has been solid for the majority of his carrer and Bryzgalov is quite a young keeper that is still yet to buuild up but still an excellent backup.
Brian Burke: genius or very lucky guy in Anaheim?