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Postby littlebert » Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:43 am

To Washington: Cooke, King
To Vancouver: Boyd Gordon, Brent Johnson, 2007 4th Round Pick
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Postby mattola » Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:12 am

source?
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Postby MinnesotaCanuck » Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:14 am

Why would the Canucks do this trade? They would be getting virtually no return on Cooke. I know the anti-Cooke faction will be happy to see the team part ways with his salary, but Nonis should be able to acquire more than that for him.

(According to sportsnet.ca)
King $450k
Cooke $1.5M

Gordon undisclosed ($901k last season)
Johnson $525k
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Postby Grizzly » Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:17 am

mattola wrote:source?


My thoughts exactly ...

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Postby tantalum » Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:44 am

MinnesotaCanuck wrote:Why would the Canucks do this trade? They would be getting virtually no return on Cooke. I know the anti-Cooke faction will be happy to see the team part ways with his salary, but Nonis should be able to acquire more than that for him.

(According to sportsnet.ca)
King $450k
Cooke $1.5M

Gordon undisclosed ($901k last season)
Johnson $525k


Even this "anti-cooke" part of the faction wouldn't trade an overpaid Matt Cooke for essentially nothing. Unless, the trade made room for a UFA signing that in the end upgraded the team.
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Postby MarkMM » Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:29 am

I like the looks of Boyd, but I'm wondering if he brings something we already have plenty of (checking, hard working forward who has some but unknown offensive upside). Sure he's a RW'er, but we need a scoring RW'er, and I'd think Cooke fills that role better, heck, King might as well.

If the thinking is going after Johnson, not sure I'd do it, but King for Johnson by itself makes more sense, maybe throw in one of our goaltending prospects but then we'd need one of their prospects in return.
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Postby littlebert » Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:59 pm

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Postby MinnesotaCanuck » Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:38 pm

tantalum wrote:
MinnesotaCanuck wrote:Why would the Canucks do this trade? They would be getting virtually no return on Cooke. I know the anti-Cooke faction will be happy to see the team part ways with his salary, but Nonis should be able to acquire more than that for him.

(According to sportsnet.ca)
King $450k
Cooke $1.5M

Gordon undisclosed ($901k last season)
Johnson $525k


Even this "anti-cooke" part of the faction wouldn't trade an overpaid Matt Cooke for essentially nothing. Unless, the trade made room for a UFA signing that in the end upgraded the team.


I could see unloading Cooke's salary if it made room for Anson Carter or some comparable scoring RW...but this trade doesn't accomplish that. Unless Gordon took a pay decrease, this trade does not create any cap space. In reality, the net change would be negative:

3rd/4th line RW ... King ( $450k) --> Gordon (~$900k)
2nd line RW ... Cooke ($1.5M) --> free agent ($1M)
backup goaltender ... pick from scrap heap (~$600k) --> Johnson ($525k)
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Postby MinnesotaCanuck » Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:43 pm

littlebert wrote:http://vancouvercanucksrumors.blogspot.com/


I bumped around this site for about three minutes and it looked hokey to me. I wouldn't put a lot of stock in it. One of the past topics discusses how the Sedins could very well be traded to Anaheim for a package of 4-5 players and some draft picks.
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Postby Kowch » Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:01 pm

tantalum wrote:Even this "anti-cooke" part of the faction wouldn't trade an overpaid Matt Cooke for essentially nothing. Unless, the trade made room for a UFA signing that in the end upgraded the team.


The question becomes what UFA's are really out there to upgrade to?

I'm not a huge fan or Cooke, however I think he contributes. Last years flukey rash of injuries aside, he's been what he was brought into to be... a solid 3rd line/2nd line kind of guy (who is a bit overpaid IMO).

If he's going to go it's going to have to be for a package that significantly upgrades the team (and that would include other players from the Canucks heading the other way). A pure salary dump wouldn't cut it.
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Postby The_Pauser » Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:31 pm

littlebert wrote:http://vancouvercanucksrumors.blogspot.com/


Ahh. Zero credibility right there.
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Postby westvandal » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:03 pm

Yep.
E1-E4 = I made it up.
E5 = Found it on tsn.
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Postby jchockey » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:09 pm

Brent Johnson again?
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