When will the Canucks Next make the playoffs
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Lmao at the Gaunce hate. Let’s spend 8 million on the fourth line, 6 million on a 3rd line winger and 4.35 million on a 3rd line centre. Not to mention 4 million on a depth d man. But Gaunce and his 1 million is the issue.
That damn Gaunce is holding this team back
It’s like blaming a shitty movie on the head of craft services
That damn Gaunce is holding this team back
It’s like blaming a shitty movie on the head of craft services
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Blobbie, nobody has said they hate Gaunce. We are using him as a measuring stick at the quality of player that skated for us. I am not sure if your trying to be sarcastic, thick, or simply trolling..Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:16 am Lmao at the Gaunce hate. Let’s spend 8 million on the fourth line, 6 million on a 3rd line winger and 4.35 million on a 3rd line centre. Not to mention 4 million on a depth d man. But Gaunce and his 1 million is the issue.
That damn Gaunce is holding this team back
It’s like blaming a shitty movie on the head of craft services
but I'll agree with the last sentence, with Gaunce in the lineup, if that's the best player we can put on the ice (regardless the cost - we are talking skill level, NOT pay grade) our team will suck. its not Gaunce personally that will hold us back, its the lack of skill a player of that quality represents.
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lol why spend money on the 4th line, when we can spend $3 million and have the actual worst 4th line in the league??Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:16 am Lmao at the Gaunce hate. Let’s spend 8 million on the fourth line
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Yes.ESQ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:07 amSeriously?Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:12 pmI agree with you two about Gaunce.Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:19 amGaunce isn’t the issue, he’s actually a good depth piece. I see him and Granlund as callup depth. If gaunce could just find that extra gear and play with a little more snarl (not talking hits more just being an asshole trying to intimidate), he could carve out a nice nhl career.Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:31 am Lmao at the Gaunce hate. The guy is a 4th liner making peanuts yet he’s the issue.
He's pretty good defensively/on the PK/in the dot.
I think he plays above his pay grade.
Like you say Dick, he needs to improve... he's 24 so it's possible.
He's fine as the 13th forward, he's a fourth liner ATM who plays wing/centre, kills penalties, he's young and only makes $750K.
I thought I saw some improvement last season, wouldn't blame folks for missing it though as he was injured a lot.
That's a stretch (even though it was an injury-plagued season for him).
He's not the world's greatest skater, but I wouldn't say he's "slow"... more like average for a big man IMO.
Actually he hits a lot in the icetime he gets... but yeah won't take himself out of position to go for the big ones.
Well obviously they're trying to turn him into a defensive forward at the highest level.
But it wouldn't surprise me if he develops into a defensive forward who can chip in offensively.
He's kinda trending that way, was on a 9 goal pace from the 4th line last season...
True that he suffered two major injuries in the past 16 months, but I don't believe he had any injury problems before that.
Career 48.2% faceoff percentage is not too shabby for a 24 year old.
(and no doubt coming back from major shoulder surgery affected that last season)
Well Beagle makes four times the money Gaunce makes so yeah.
Gaunce would likely get claimed in my opinion.
Like I said "Gaunce needs to improve"... this season is YUGE for him.
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I guess that's the main divergence in opinion between us.
To me, there is 0 chance Gaunce gets claimed. There's too many low-end projects in the league for anyone to bother putting in a waiver claim. He was (IMO, and I'm confident any statistical measure will back this up) the worst forward, on one of the worst teams in the league.
Let me put it this way - would any team in the league waive their own player/prospect/project to make a space for a claimed-Gaunce?
I think this link will work, but its the reverse-standing of forwards with >37 GP, sorted by points (lowest-highest). Kind of an arbitrary measure of who's the worst, but when you're dealing with players with minimal ice-time, I think it demonstrates the lack of effectiveness. The good ol' boys in blue managed 3 players at the bottom of FWs - Dowd, Motte and Gaunce. Those three are also at the bottom of the league in points/60 .
I think Gaunce is almost guaranteed to be waived this fall, so the proof will be in the pudding I guess. If he gets claimed, Canucks will be able to claim or sign a similarly ineffective player - but hopefully from October on there won't be room on the team for players as ineffective as Gaunce.
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What part of "defensive forward" did you not understand?
Not everything is about points my friend.
I notice some very good defensive players on page 8 of your 2nd link.
It's premature to proclaim Gaunce will be waived this fall.
As I said this season is "YUGE" for him and Gaunce knows he "has to be better".
Let's see what the 24-year-old can do now that he's finally fully healthy.
It wouldn't surprise me in the least if he sticks as "the 13th forward"
... and if not, a team with injuries in their bottom 6 might very well pluck him off waivers.
Not everything is about points my friend.
I notice some very good defensive players on page 8 of your 2nd link.
It's premature to proclaim Gaunce will be waived this fall.
As I said this season is "YUGE" for him and Gaunce knows he "has to be better".
Let's see what the 24-year-old can do now that he's finally fully healthy.
It wouldn't surprise me in the least if he sticks as "the 13th forward"
... and if not, a team with injuries in their bottom 6 might very well pluck him off waivers.
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Yup Gaunce will be on waivers for sure, if he gets claimed then that's helpful in a sense as it free's up a spot on the comets and canucks and a bit of the cap, plus I liken it to losing Corrado - won't make that much of a difference.ESQ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:34 pmI guess that's the main divergence in opinion between us.
To me, there is 0 chance Gaunce gets claimed. There's too many low-end projects in the league for anyone to bother putting in a waiver claim. He was (IMO, and I'm confident any statistical measure will back this up) the worst forward, on one of the worst teams in the league.
Let me put it this way - would any team in the league waive their own player/prospect/project to make a space for a claimed-Gaunce?
I think this link will work, but its the reverse-standing of forwards with >37 GP, sorted by points (lowest-highest). Kind of an arbitrary measure of who's the worst, but when you're dealing with players with minimal ice-time, I think it demonstrates the lack of effectiveness. The good ol' boys in blue managed 3 players at the bottom of FWs - Dowd, Motte and Gaunce. Those three are also at the bottom of the league in points/60 .
I think Gaunce is almost guaranteed to be waived this fall, so the proof will be in the pudding I guess. If he gets claimed, Canucks will be able to claim or sign a similarly ineffective player - but hopefully from October on there won't be room on the team for players as ineffective as Gaunce.
I'd rather lose Gaunce than lose a Leipsic or Granlund type.
Gagner could be the main roster trade bait if Gaudette plays awesome.
Can the Canucks just win a Cup within the next 5 years.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:16 am Lmao at the Gaunce hate.
That damn Gaunce is holding this team back
Hey Skyo how much cap space does shipping out a $750K player "free up"?
Hint: The player would have to be replaced and the NHL minimum wage is $650K.
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Gonna guess some team will claim Gaunce and his $750K, then in time he'll be claimed again by another team, and he'll bounce around a few teams before becoming a career ahl/nhler for his pro career, his size will help him stick longer in the pros. He just doesn't have that gritty play coaches love from depth players.
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Well said, this is how I view him as well, it pains me because ms is a huge gaunce fanboy and I can’t stand him(ms), but gaunce has excellent hockey iq, will hit (I’d wish he’d be more “nasty” though), and has great fancy stats. If he could improve his foot speed even marginally I think he’d be a mainstay on the team. I hope gaunce and liepsic are able to stick around.Strangelove wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:36 pmYes.ESQ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:07 amSeriously?Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:12 pmI agree with you two about Gaunce.Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:19 amGaunce isn’t the issue, he’s actually a good depth piece. I see him and Granlund as callup depth. If gaunce could just find that extra gear and play with a little more snarl (not talking hits more just being an asshole trying to intimidate), he could carve out a nice nhl career.Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:31 am Lmao at the Gaunce hate. The guy is a 4th liner making peanuts yet he’s the issue.
He's pretty good defensively/on the PK/in the dot.
I think he plays above his pay grade.
Like you say Dick, he needs to improve... he's 24 so it's possible.
He's fine as the 13th forward, he's a fourth liner ATM who plays wing/centre, kills penalties, he's young and only makes $750K.
I thought I saw some improvement last season, wouldn't blame folks for missing it though as he was injured a lot.
That's a stretch (even though it was an injury-plagued season for him).
He's not the world's greatest skater, but I wouldn't say he's "slow"... more like average for a big man IMO.
Actually he hits a lot in the icetime he gets... but yeah won't take himself out of position to go for the big ones.
Well obviously they're trying to turn him into a defensive forward at the highest level.
But it wouldn't surprise me if he develops into a defensive forward who can chip in offensively.
He's kinda trending that way, was on a 9 goal pace from the 4th line last season...
True that he suffered two major injuries in the past 16 months, but I don't believe he had any injury problems before that.
Career 48.2% faceoff percentage is not too shabby for a 24 year old.
(and no doubt coming back from major shoulder surgery affected that last season)
Well Beagle makes four times the money Gaunce makes so yeah.
Gaunce would likely get claimed in my opinion.
Like I said "Gaunce needs to improve"... this season is YUGE for him.
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Or spend 6 million and get 24 points and 7 hits? Or spend 4 million and have a guy whose breakout pass is blasting the puck off the glass and averages 5 points a year.ESQ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:05 pmlol why spend money on the 4th line, when we can spend $3 million and have the actual worst 4th line in the league??Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:16 am Lmao at the Gaunce hate. Let’s spend 8 million on the fourth line
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I could care less about Gaunce. I’m just laughing at the chimps who paint him as a huge issue with the team. Sutter, Gudbranson, Eriksson, the new three amigos, Hutton,Nilsson and Granlund all are worse bang for the buck for this team. This is a cap league after all.
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Bubbles has a soft spot for ole Gauncey. Gillis drafted him
Mike Gillis top 5 draft picks in his 6 runs at the draft table
1. Bo Horvat (traded Corey Schneider for him)
2. Connauton (traded him and a 2nd round pick for the great rental of Derek Roy)
3. Ben Hutton (all smiles no steak)
4. Gaunce
5. um...I can't think of anyone else? Can anyone throw me a bone here?
Mike Gillis top 5 draft picks in his 6 runs at the draft table
1. Bo Horvat (traded Corey Schneider for him)
2. Connauton (traded him and a 2nd round pick for the great rental of Derek Roy)
3. Ben Hutton (all smiles no steak)
4. Gaunce
5. um...I can't think of anyone else? Can anyone throw me a bone here?
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Got fuck all to do with who drafted Gaunce. He just isn't the biggest problem on a team that includes Nilsson, Granlund,Sutter, Eriksson, Gudbranson, Beaglet, Roussel etc.
I don't like Hutton and Eye Bags drafted him. I hated Labate and Jensen too
I don't like Hutton and Eye Bags drafted him. I hated Labate and Jensen too
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Re: When will the Canucks Next make the playoffs
Gaunce will have a shot until Schaller is healthy. He hasn’t shown enough of anything for anyone to worry about what happens to him. He has a nice inexpensive contract but will be battling for a bottom six spot. He won’t impede the opportunities for players like Goldobin, Darlene, Pettersson. Maybe Leipsic.
If he is defensively responsible and he isn’t surrending offensive opportunities to the opposition he will become a Green player. If he can’t be trusted in that role then there is no other role for him.
If he is defensively responsible and he isn’t surrending offensive opportunities to the opposition he will become a Green player. If he can’t be trusted in that role then there is no other role for him.
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