Prior to his career-year last year, he'd been averaging more like 65 points. He's cracked 75 points twice in the past decade.
When he's a 70+ point center, for sure he is top-10 in the league. The problem is when he's a 64-point center, or a 52-point center, he's one of the least-productive first-line centers in the League. Again, not too dissimilar to Henrik Sedin - a 50-point center under Torts and the team is out of the playoffs, a 73-point center in 14/15 and the team makes the playoffs.
Carter is a great 2nd-line center, but you know what to expect from him when healthy - 60 points. He's been remarkably consistent - including during the years the Kings have missed the playoffs.
He definitely the goalie I'd pick between the 2 of them, but they're actually fairly similar regular season goalies. Miller has a career .915 SV%, Quick is .916. Had it not been for the last 2 years in Vancouver, they'd probably have a similar win % as well. The huge difference obviously is playoff performance - but even then, Miller has more playoff Ws than Quick over the last 4 years.Quick is a much better goalie than Miller ever has been.
Ya, I went with 14/15 because they're both coming off of missing the playoffs, they both had good seasons sparked by big turnarounds from older players. There was a perception that the team success in 14/15 put off the rebuild (I don't agree with that), and there's certainly an argument to be made that the Kings are avoiding a re-build because they think they can still make the playoffs.Not a bad comparison to the Canucks of 14-15, but I see more of the Canucks of 11-12 and 12-13 sans the stud d man
But who knows, in last year's thread I predicted Jussi Jokinen would save the Oilers and carry them to the promised land!