Strangelove wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:23 pm
*Lol at blobytes saying blobyte things...
Diehard1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:02 pm
Alright, again hard to know where to start but I will give it a try:
- Again, I said nothing about taking 7 to 10 years, that wasn't my idea (you should know how that works given how you never have your own ideas). That was a response to somebody else, I did not say, insinuate, or discuss anything about a rebuild taking that long, in fact my point was the opposite, that it shouldn't take anywhere near that long to get results.
Clearly (to everyone but you) I got that from the beginning.
I've already supplied proof of that, you must be blind….
Diehard1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:02 pm
- You said 'the Canucks are anywhere from 1 to 4 years into a rebuild' then wonder where I go the 1 to 2 years from (trying to slip away from your comments yet again).
AGAIN: I never stated I think we are “anywhere from 1 to 4 years into a rebuild”.
(you need to work on your reading comprehension)
In fact I’ve stated my precise position on this matter literally dozens of times.
You need to ask yourself why you are the only one who is blind to this.
And how on Earth did you miss me saying (twice) in this conversation the blobytes say 1 year and I am the Antiblob.
(PRO TIP: Blindness
+ low-level reading comprehension
= poor debating skills)
Diehard1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:02 pm
- Regarding the salaries, yes I said it worries me that we're signing lower end players to long term contracts with no-trade clauses. It should worry all of us because it's a continuing trend - Sutter is overpaid, Eriksson is massively overpaid (even you can't disagree with this, can you?), now Beagle is overpaid. If this continues then the salary cap will become a problem even if it isn't now, given new deals for younger players coming up. I then said it might be mitigated by a rising salary cap and perhaps some trades. How is that hard to understand?
Ummmm… I
completely understood.
I merely laughed because you raised a concern and then alleviated that concern 2 sentences later.
You were effectively “debating with yourself".
How is laughing at dat dere hard to understand?
"you must be a lot of fun at parties"
Diehard1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:02 pm
- For the leaves, I didn't realize you were being so specific to make sure nobody could disagree with your points. Yes I said that the leaves in the past 5 drafts have drafted players that helped them win a recent championship, but that doesn't mean I was talking about their contributions in the playoffs only
… find where I said 'in the playoffs only' and we can talk
Your original statement referred to the playoffs, I highlighted it in
green remember:
Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:27 pm
Diehard1 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:56 pm
For me though, the big difference between the Nucks and the leaves
over the past 5 drafts (since Benning started) is we've drafted 34 players while the leaves have drafted 42. That's a lot more draft picks to play with,
and the leaves have turned them into some good prospects and a deep system that just won them the AHL championship.
You’ve since referred to that AHL championship a few times.
Amazing how you backpedal and move goalposts at the same time... you should be in the circus!
If you had previously said anything about the regular season
... I’d have pointed out how little those guys contributed in the regular season.
I’d also have reminded you of when
YOU SAID:
“Hard to play for the Marlies when you are playing 37 games for the big club”
Diehard1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:02 pm
- Thank you for mentioning Johnsson - again a player the leaves drafted and developed, though I guess
it was 6 drafts ago - I guess he doesn't count though in your mind.
AGAIN: I was responding to YOUR statement in the
highlighted green.
The reason you said "past 5 drafts" and
not “past 6 drafts” is because Benning wasn’t here 6 drafts ago. (context buddy
context)
More proof of you trying to move the goalposts after losing the debate…
Diehard1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:02 pm
- Sigh - regarding the draft picks, I don't know how many damn times I have to say how much I've liked what Benning has done there in the past few years. It's painful to keep explaining this to you, but here goes - yes I like the draft picks assembled, yes I think it's the best pool in Canucks history so far (just ahead of 1999 when we had the Sedins, Bryan Allen, Ruutu, etc.), yes I'm excited to see where it goes. No, I don't think Benning has done a good job getting extra picks and no, I don't think he's made good trades to put the rebuild as far along as he could have and no, I don't think he's done a good job signing free agents. It gets lost somehow that we've had to endure 3 horrible seasons in a row to get those picks, everyone gives Benning credit for the picks without pointing out that he's given us 3 straight terrible teams to get them. Get it? Not that difficult to follow so hopefully you won't ask me about it yet another time in a few weeks
Yeahno, you’re fucked-up buddy, drowning in a puddle of your own secretions.
You should change your handle from "Diehard" to "Dead Inside".
Suck it up Buttercup, you’ve gotta expect “horrible seasons” in a rebuild.
You just finally admitted we have “the best pool in Canucks history”
…. yet throughout this debate you have repeatedly stated:
“The results couldn't have been much worse”
And I should remind you here that in the past I’ve handed you your ass in debates about those FA signings/trades.
Diehard1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:02 pm
Now, the questions for you, maybe you'll actually answer them this time instead of just going after my thoughts:
- how long has the rebuild been going on? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 years?
- from the date you think they started, what has been their strategy?
http://www.canuckscorner.com/forums/vie ... 33#p296033
(kindly read all 5 consecutive posts)
Diehard1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:02 pm
- which free agent signings has Benning made that you've liked? Didn't like?
The last time you and I discussed FAs and trades
you bailed, here was my last post in that debate:
http://www.canuckscorner.com/forums/vie ... 91#p298891
So ironic that YOU accuse ME of not debating these things.
Diehard1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:02 pm
- did you watch any Marlies games this year? Highlights even?
Yes... but this is just you trying to move the goalposts amirite?
If you doubt my knowledge of all things Leaves, you should check out the Leaves thread.
Diehard1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:02 pm
- how many games have you seen Elias Pettersson play? Quinn Hughes? Juolevi? Lind? Gadjovich? It's definitely the best prospect pool in history as you keep pointing out so surely you've seen these guys play in order to keep saying it
Since we both now agree that it’s “the best prospect pool in history” how is this relevant to our discussion?
(you little goalpost-mover you!)
Diehard1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:02 pm
Again, I'm happy to keep debating, perhaps at some point we'll even agree on something, but given we've both said our parts about how we don't like each other (at least on the internet) let's keep the conversation to hockey, shall we? If there's another personal attack post responding then I just don't have the patience for it anymore and yes, I will walk away from this conversation.
Lol, did someone hack your account and post that lengthy lame-ass personal attack above?
http://www.canuckscorner.com/forums/vie ... 56#p310356
Hmmmm... posted just 33 minutes before this particular post of yours...
(you little hypocrite you!)
"You are unemployed and living with your parents" - Diehard1
OMG wot a lame-o!
BTW what was your excuse for “walking away” from the FAs and trades debate linked above?