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Post by Meds » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:24 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:11 pm
Richardstroker69 wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:53 pm
What’s bobby Ryan and Karlsson cost?
7th overall, Tanev, Goldie, DiPietro … for… Karlsson, 2 cap dumps (Ryan, Burrows) :mex:

EDLER - KARLSSON
JUOLEVI - GUDBRANSON
MDZ - STECHER
The :mex: means you know that's not even gonna come CLOSE to being enough right?

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Post by Blob Mckenzie » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:39 am

Hockey Widow wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:25 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:03 pm
Hockey Widow wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:15 pm
Strangelove wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:11 pm
Richardstroker69 wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:53 pm
What’s bobby Ryan and Karlsson cost?
7th overall, Tanev, Goldie, DiPietro … for… Karlsson, 2 cap dumps (Ryan, Burrows) :mex:

EDLER - KARLSSON
JUOLEVI - GUDBRANSON
MDZ - STECHER


Then sign Hansen July 1st
And Burrows and Bieksa

He said Burrows. You must have meant Sbisa
Sure why not? Trade the 2nd rounder for the right to sign him.
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Post by Richardstroker69 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:58 am

Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:39 am
Hockey Widow wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:25 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:03 pm
Hockey Widow wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:15 pm
Strangelove wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:11 pm
Richardstroker69 wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:53 pm
What’s bobby Ryan and Karlsson cost?
7th overall, Tanev, Goldie, DiPietro … for… Karlsson, 2 cap dumps (Ryan, Burrows) :mex:

EDLER - KARLSSON
JUOLEVI - GUDBRANSON
MDZ - STECHER


Then sign Hansen July 1st
And Burrows and Bieksa

He said Burrows. You must have meant Sbisa
Sure why not? Trade the 2nd rounder for the right to sign him.
As if blob, the third rounder would be enough

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Post by Cherry Picker » Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:31 am

I’m just looking at a way to show that Blob can’t be right.
So it sounds like Montreal may trade down for a centre, likely the Fin around the 7th pick, and Vancouver wants more picks. And perhaps NYI would want to move up in the draft.
Here’s a trade that popped into my head.
Islanders trade their #11 & #12 overall for Montreal’s #3 overall.
Then Montreal sends the #12 overall plus two of their three second rounders to Vancouver for the #7 overall.
Hmmmm, sounds good, right?

...naw, Blob’s still right, just take Dobson.
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Post by Tciso » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:30 am

Strangelove wrote:
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Uncle dans leg wrote:
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I think this is what management might be thinking for next season if they swap the 1st for noah.

HANIFIN - TANEV
EDLER - STECHER
MDZ - GUDBRANSON
Swap out Stretcher for a UFA and i would say thats pretty close
HANIFIN - TANEV
EDLER - GUDBRANSON
MDZ - STECHER
Pardon me, but if Hanafin is only the #4 guy on Carolina, why do we want him so badly? Even if he would be our #1 guy, we'd still have a shitty defense. Keep the pick and hope we draft a real top 2 D-man. If we trade for Hanafin, we will be over-paying, and pushing our re-build back farther.
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Post by Island Nucklehead » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:46 am

Tciso wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:30 am

Pardon me, but if Hanafin is only the #4 guy on Carolina, why do we want him so badly? Even if he would be our #1 guy, we'd still have a shitty defense. Keep the pick and hope we draft a real top 2 D-man. If we trade for Hanafin, we will be over-paying, and pushing our re-build back farther.
Maybe because he just turned 21 in January. I think it's safe to assume his minutes climb as he gains experience.

If the player we draft at 7 is leading our D in scoring at 21, as Hanifin did, we'll be quite pleased indeed. Which is why I would do the 7th overall for him, but nothing more (and I assume they'll want more). I'm perfectly happy to use the pick.

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Post by ESQ » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:49 am

Richardstroker69 wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:58 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:39 am
Hockey Widow wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:25 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:03 pm
Hockey Widow wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:15 pm
Strangelove wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:11 pm
Richardstroker69 wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:53 pm
What’s bobby Ryan and Karlsson cost?
7th overall, Tanev, Goldie, DiPietro … for… Karlsson, 2 cap dumps (Ryan, Burrows) :mex:

EDLER - KARLSSON
JUOLEVI - GUDBRANSON
MDZ - STECHER


Then sign Hansen July 1st
And Burrows and Bieksa

He said Burrows. You must have meant Sbisa
Sure why not? Trade the 2nd rounder for the right to sign him.
As if blob, the third rounder would be enough
If you wanna get the deal done, better throw in that 3rd with the 2nd, just to be sure. :lol: :lol:

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Post by micky107 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:23 am

Read down the page to the part regarding how Trevor responded to the Hanifin rumors.
https://www.spectorshockey.net/2018/06/ ... e-13-2018/

Guess not, eh?
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Post by Reefer2 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:29 am

Good on Linden, don’t move the pick unless you get something great in return.

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Post by micky107 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:01 pm

Reefer2 wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:29 am
Good on Linden, don’t move the pick unless you get something great in return.
Ah but Trev may be pullin his own puppet strings.
Honestly, I don't see why the Nucks would have no interest in him.
The plus/minus is atrocious but we need a defense man that can put up points.
I've read Peters had no clue how to put his D-pairings together, so if Calgary didn't have enough problems, now they have more, haha.
If I recall, he and Boeser spent some time shootin the bull during the All-Star break. Doesn't mean anything, I'm sure.

I don't know about anyone else but I see a young defense man that can set up plays, score on his own as well.
Enters the NHL right away and puts in 3 years with almost perfect attendance.
He's 21 now. To me, that's impressive.
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Post by Lancer » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:17 pm

Cherry Picker wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:31 am
I’m just looking at a way to show that Blob can’t be right.
So it sounds like Montreal may trade down for a centre, likely the Fin around the 7th pick, and Vancouver wants more picks. And perhaps NYI would want to move up in the draft.
Here’s a trade that popped into my head.
Islanders trade their #11 & #12 overall for Montreal’s #3 overall.
Then Montreal sends the #12 overall plus two of their three second rounders to Vancouver for the #7 overall.
Hmmmm, sounds good, right?

...naw, Blob’s still right, just take Dobson.
Trading up or down the draft is risky unless you know which team is going to pick whom, or that the player you've ranked higher than anyone else you know is going to be there where you end up trading to pick.

Benning tried doing it last year, didn't find a partner, and ended up taking Pettersson. Imagine if he'd traded down and somebody snatched up Pettersson before Benning picked - and Pettersson obviously was the object of his desires with his 1st round pick. I still get the sense that other GMs see Benning as a noob and are looking for their chance to fleece him. The moves you don't make are sometimes the best decisions.

Nothing wrong with Benning keeping #7 and have a good chance of getting who he wants at that point (regardless of where that player is ranked), rather than playing with fire betting that that player will drop to where he can trade down. If it's Dobson, so be it. If it's someone else like Wahlstrom, or even someone further down the consensus rankings, I'll give the scouting staff the benefit of the doubt.
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Post by Strangelove » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:25 pm

micky107 wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:23 am
Read down the page to the part regarding how Trevor responded to the Hanifin rumors.
https://www.spectorshockey.net/2018/06/ ... e-13-2018/

Guess not, eh?
"In other words, the Canucks have set a high asking price for their first-round pick. If, for example, the Hurricanes want that pick, it’ll cost them Hanifin plus perhaps a draft pick (other than Carolina’s first-round pick) or a prospect."

So on the draft floor: 7th overall for Hanifin + 42nd overall.

IF the guy Canes want is still available... and IF none of the guys Benning is hot for are available.

There are always plenty of these potential draft floor trades on the table, but few actually come to fruition.
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Post by Madcombinepilot » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:27 pm

Island Nucklehead wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:46 am
Tciso wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:30 am

Pardon me, but if Hanafin is only the #4 guy on Carolina, why do we want him so badly? Even if he would be our #1 guy, we'd still have a shitty defense. Keep the pick and hope we draft a real top 2 D-man. If we trade for Hanafin, we will be over-paying, and pushing our re-build back farther.
Maybe because he just turned 21 in January. I think it's safe to assume his minutes climb as he gains experience.

If the player we draft at 7 is leading our D in scoring at 21, as Hanifin did, we'll be quite pleased indeed. Which is why I would do the 7th overall for him, but nothing more (and I assume they'll want more). I'm perfectly happy to use the pick.
If the guy we draft at 7 this year is leading us in scoring in 3 years, we will be in REAL trouble for decades more to come.
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Post by micky107 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:49 pm

Hey; I can see how a Hanifin deal "could" happen. Not totally crazy.
Want to see something totally crazy?
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/J ... es/1/93353

I have no idea how this would happen without the name Boeser. I would never forgive that.
Can anyone suggest a way?
Ah, look at the source, probably bull poop, right?
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Post by Hockey Widow » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:15 pm

Madcombinepilot wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:27 pm
Island Nucklehead wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:46 am
Tciso wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:30 am

Pardon me, but if Hanafin is only the #4 guy on Carolina, why do we want him so badly? Even if he would be our #1 guy, we'd still have a shitty defense. Keep the pick and hope we draft a real top 2 D-man. If we trade for Hanafin, we will be over-paying, and pushing our re-build back farther.
Maybe because he just turned 21 in January. I think it's safe to assume his minutes climb as he gains experience.

If the player we draft at 7 is leading our D in scoring at 21, as Hanifin did, we'll be quite pleased indeed. Which is why I would do the 7th overall for him, but nothing more (and I assume they'll want more). I'm perfectly happy to use the pick.
If the guy we draft at 7 this year is leading us in scoring in 3 years, we will be in REAL trouble for decades more to come.
Leading the D scoring. Not leading scorer.
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