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Re: 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs

Postby Diehard1 » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:45 am

Does Bettman have to call Jacobs, his boss, and ask if he ca suspend Lucic? There's no way a Bruin gets suspended for anything less than attempted murder. They broke a guy's back and it wasn't even a penalty.

Good to see Detroit giving Boston a good run, also great to see the Habs doing well. Hopefully a few of the other favourites can go out so I will have somebody to cheer for. As is, I don't really care who wins, more cheering against certain teams.
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Re: 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs

Postby ClamRussel » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:17 am

Aaaaaaas we suspected:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=449825

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Re: 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs

Postby ClamRussel » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:22 am

http://www.tsn.ca/VideoHub/?collection=72&show=328020

For such a tough guy he sure can't take a hit.
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Re: 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs

Postby RoyalDude » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:33 am

That's the difference maker for me why I don't want to emulate the Bruins, they are tough yes, but they are a bunch of babies. It's ok for them to play you hard but when you hit them hard back, they can't take it. It still amazes me how the Canucks are so hated yet the bruins play cheapest and dirtiest hockey in the game but as soon as u play that way back at them you get the penalty. I really can't stand them. It doesn't help that they are beloved by Cherry and the eastern hockey media. How dare we criticize an original 6 team?

One play yesterday where the class act Datsyuk stripped the puck off of Chara, You could see that Chara wanted to go after him for it like the nerve of Datsyuk to do that to Zdeno. I am so sick of Marchands post whistle antics. Yet they somehow get away with it. Well, they say the Boston owner is the most powerful owner in the league
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Re: 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs

Postby ClamRussel » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:39 am

RoyalDude wrote:That's the difference maker for me why I don't want to emulate the Bruins, they are tough yes, but they are a bunch of babies. It's ok for them to play you hard but when you hit them hard back, they can't take it. It still amazes me how the Canucks are so hated yet the bruins play cheapest and dirtiest hockey in the game but as soon as u play that way back at them you get the penalty. I really can't stand them. It doesn't help that they are beloved by Cherry and the eastern hockey media. How dare we criticize an original 6 team?

One play yesterday where the class act Datsyuk stripped the puck off of Chara, You could see that Chara wanted to go after him for it like the nerve of Datsyuk to do that to Zdeno. I am so sick of Marchands post whistle antics. Yet they somehow get away with it. Well, they say the Boston owner is the most powerful owner in the league


The problem is the Bruins are protected. If a team like the Canucks played like that they'd be in the box all game and suspended half the year for "poor angles" and the like. Remember how the boys came out hard against the Sharks & Kings and spent half the games in the box for "stupid penalties" yet the Bruins play exactly that way and they are "tough and hard to play against".
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Re: 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs

Postby ClamRussel » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:42 pm

...yet the NHL deems this as 5x worse an infraction than the Lucic crotch spear.


Lucic $5k no suspension

Quenneville $25k

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Re: 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs

Postby Cornuck » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:49 pm

Geez Clam - I respect your passion for the game, but you're going to have aneurysm trying to make sense of the NHL's reffing and discipline systems. :?
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Re: 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs

Postby ClamRussel » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:52 pm

Cornuck wrote:Geez Clam - I respect your passion for the game, but you're going to have aneurysm trying to make sense of the NHL's reffing and discipline systems. :?


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Re: 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs

Postby BurningBeard » Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:17 pm

ClamRussel wrote:Aaaaaaas we suspected:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=449825

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Are they actually fining him $5000 for "spearing"? I don't understand why they'd admit it's a spear. A spear is a game, so if they're saying it's a spear that wasn't called, he should get a game for it. I presumed they wouldn't fine him at all, or fine him for "slashing".

This is a text book example for the argument that the instigator rule doesn't work. In general I'm not against the instigator rule, but it only works if the league is going to police the game instead. If they're not, you need to let the players do it. There would have been retribution against Lucic the next shift if it weren't for the instigator, and that's what should have happened. I don't even think a suspension is necessary if Lucic "pays for his sins" the next shift.
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Re: 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs

Postby ClamRussel » Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:40 pm

BurningBeard wrote:Are they actually fining him $5000 for "spearing"? I don't understand why they'd admit it's a spear. A spear is a game, so if they're saying it's a spear that wasn't called, he should get a game for it. I presumed they wouldn't fine him at all, or fine him for "slashing".

This is a text book example for the argument that the instigator rule doesn't work. In general I'm not against the instigator rule, but it only works if the league is going to police the game instead. If they're not, you need to let the players do it. There would have been retribution against Lucic the next shift if it weren't for the instigator, and that's what should have happened. I don't even think a suspension is necessary if Lucic "pays for his sins" the next shift.


Yep, they're calling it spearing all right.
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Re: 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs

Postby SKYO » Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:50 pm

holycrappola!

Check out Seabrook's hit to Backes head!

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Concussion without a doubt, cause it's playoffs more leeway, so he'll only get like 3 games instead of the 5.
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Re: 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs

Postby ClamRussel » Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:18 pm

Holy shitzen! Shades of Torres.

Well, playoffs didn't stop the NHL from throwing the book at Rome for a far lesser hit imo. BUT, this is Seabrook and he plays for the Hawks so they'll go easy on him. I'd be shocked if Backes isn't done for the season after that one. That hit pretty much cost the Hawks the game.

If that hit was on Burrows there would be no suspension. If that hit was delivered by Edler it would be 10 games, if it was Kassian it would be the rest of playoffs. Ya, Seabrook probably gets 3.

Backes didn't even have the puck.
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Re: 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs

Postby SKYO » Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:22 pm

suspension for sure there clam...

Wow Blues win it! in OT!
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Re: 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs

Postby BurningBeard » Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:36 pm

The Chicago / St. Louis series has been great, and I'm not just saying that because St. Louis is up 2-0. The stick work on display would make Billy Smith blush. Refs really need to keep a handle on things, the teams already hated each other before the hit on Backes. Series is a powder keg waiting to go off. Great action though, very entertaining.
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Re: 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs

Postby Mondi » Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:38 pm

If that was a Canuck throwing that hit it would be 10 games for sure.

Seabrook will get 1 or 2 games.

That CBC guy interviewing Jackman sucks, why didn't he ask him about the Seabrook hit, or Keith swinging his stick left and right all game.
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