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Re: Back in 2014/15. Out in 2014/15

Postby Meds » Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:26 pm

Well the fat lady has left the building.

After a performance like that, when the season was on the line and they came out that flat against an Anaheim team that, quite honestly, didn't look overly intimidating tonight, one has to think that nobody outside of the Sedins is safe.....even though they were fairly terrible tonight too.
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Re: Back in 2014/15. Out in 2014/15

Postby Reefer2 » Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:11 am

Meds wrote:Well the fat lady has left the building.

After a performance like that, when the season was on the line and they came out that flat against an Anaheim team that, quite honestly, didn't look overly intimidating tonight, one has to think that nobody outside of the Sedins is safe.....even though they were fairly terrible tonight too.


All the players are safe, remember MG says he will not ask anyone with a NTC to move.

He has no balls to make deals that are needed, he needs to be gone to allow in a GM who thinks Canucks first not getting down and doing the players.
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Re: Back in 2014/15. Out in 2014/15

Postby Hockey Widow » Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:31 am

MG won't ask a player to waive but as we have seen he has ways of getting someone else to nose around. Wonder if the leaks about Kesler allegedly asking for a trade were planted by the organization. Luongo was never asked but his situation was such he asked. Kesler was obviously prepared to be traded on deadline day so someone is talking. Bieksa has made it clear he won't waive. And Edler and Burrows don't want to waive but may consider a deal in the offseason, just not during the season. Hamhuis said he won't waive. Garrison is on the fence but leaning towards a no waive. So someone knows what players are apt to do what. All of this and MG never has to ask anyone.

I don't put any stock in that. BB also used to say he'd never ask a player to waive, they earned the NTC blah, blah, blah. But he changed his tune in Toronto very quickly and justified by saying he wasn't the one to give the NTC so he could ask but he would never ask a player he gave one to.

If the Canucks want to trade players with NTC I think they might have a shot at Kesler with two possibles in Edler and Burrows. Edler was heavily shopped at the deadline and supposedly a deal was in place with Boston contingent on MG making the Kesler deal. But Edler says he wasn't asked. Tells me there were no deals being made but that the Canucks were testing the waters and also sending a message to the players.

Sort of like MG did with Luongo. He fielded calls on Luongo before CS was proclaimed the new number one that deadline day before the LA series. Once that leaked out and Luongo was pulled the process started. It seems to be the way this organization does business. Everyone and their uncle assumed CS was going to be traded either at the deadline or in the off season and MG is talking to Florida and Toronto on deadline day about moving Luongo. In fairness that was the start of Luongo's personal issues so maybe they saw the writing on the wall in addition to falling in love with CS.


My point is if they want to move someone they can do it all without MG asking a damn thing. Sneaky is sneaky gets.
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Re: Back in 2014/15. Out in 2014/15

Postby ukcanuck » Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:56 am

Holy shit that was fast....
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Re: Back in 2014/15. Out in 2014/15

Postby Diehard1 » Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:38 am

Given the new regime in place I'm not sure who is coming or going, if Kes is staying or getting traded, if Edler is back, if Torts is fired, etc.

What I do know is that this team needs changes, and not just the coach or a 3rd line winger. They need to change at least one and maybe two core pieces because there's way too much lethargy and comfort on this team. One or two of the twins (not going to happen), Kesler (maybe), Burr (doubt it), Edler (maybe), Bieksa (doubt it), Hamhuis (doubt it) need to go. This team just doesn't have it anymore, hasn't had it for a few years, I really hope the new regime doesn't give them another chance as they have had enough.
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Re: Back in 2014/15. Out in 2014/15

Postby theman » Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:49 am

As much as I would love to see him finish his career as a Canuck, Kesler is the logical one to trade. He should get a good return for the Canucks and allow them to retool quite quickly. I am one that doesn't think Vancouver is in that bad a position, IF, we handle this offseason well. Horvat coming in along with the returns from a Kesler and Edler(yeah, I would probably trade him too) trade, should see us rebuild our offensive lines quickly. As well, with the extra cap room, we should be able to bring in some decent players to help our offense out. It all depends on how the new GM handles this offseason.
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Re: Back in 2014/15. Out in 2014/15

Postby Cornuck » Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:15 am

So do we stick with the Lack / Markstrom combo - or bring a vet to help Lack out?

List of UFA goalies

All in the 2mil range with this year's contracts:
Vokoun?
Brian Elliot?
Bring LaBarbra back? (nah)
Bryzgalov
Giguere
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Re: Back in 2014/15. Out in 2014/15

Postby theman » Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:16 am

Yeah, bring in one of those guys, I would be happy with at least 3 of them as a back up to Lack.
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Re: Back in 2014/15. Out in 2014/15

Postby Tciso » Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:35 am

Cornuck wrote:So do we stick with the Lack / Markstrom combo - or bring a vet to help Lack out?

List of UFA goalies

All in the 2mil range with this year's contracts:
Vokoun?
Brian Elliot?
Bring LaBarbra back? (nah)
Bryzgalov
Giguere


I'd be ok with Markstrom. he showed some promise. But, I'd also keep my eyes open for a replacement. He's on the low end of acceptable for a backup. What about Ericksson from the AHL??
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Re: Back in 2014/15. Out in 2014/15

Postby Arachnid » Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:39 am

Tciso wrote:
Cornuck wrote:So do we stick with the Lack / Markstrom combo - or bring a vet to help Lack out?

List of UFA goalies

All in the 2mil range with this year's contracts:
Vokoun?
Brian Elliot?
Bring LaBarbra back? (nah)
Bryzgalov
Giguere


I'd be ok with Markstrom. he showed some promise. But, I'd also keep my eyes open for a replacement. He's on the low end of acceptable for a backup. What about Ericksson from the AHL??


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Re: Back in 2014/15. Out in 2014/15

Postby SKYO » Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:46 am

Tciso wrote:
Cornuck wrote:So do we stick with the Lack / Markstrom combo - or bring a vet to help Lack out?

List of UFA goalies

All in the 2mil range with this year's contracts:
Vokoun?
Brian Elliot?
Bring LaBarbra back? (nah)
Bryzgalov
Giguere


I'd be ok with Markstrom. he showed some promise. But, I'd also keep my eyes open for a replacement. He's on the low end of acceptable for a backup. What about Ericksson from the AHL??


No way in hell do we have two rookie/sophomore goalies here next season, bring in a vet for one season, maybe trade one of Lack or Markstrom for help up front or defense.

Just got to keep that option open of potentially getting Schneider back in 2015 or possibly trading back for him at the deadline if NJ can't re-sign him.
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Re: Back in 2014/15. Out in 2014/15

Postby Lancer » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:42 pm

SKYO wrote:
Tciso wrote:
Cornuck wrote:So do we stick with the Lack / Markstrom combo - or bring a vet to help Lack out?

List of UFA goalies

All in the 2mil range with this year's contracts:
Vokoun?
Brian Elliot?
Bring LaBarbra back? (nah)
Bryzgalov
Giguere


I'd be ok with Markstrom. he showed some promise. But, I'd also keep my eyes open for a replacement. He's on the low end of acceptable for a backup. What about Ericksson from the AHL??


No way in hell do we have two rookie/sophomore goalies here next season, bring in a vet for one season, maybe trade one of Lack or Markstrom for help up front or defense.

Just got to keep that option open of potentially getting Schneider back in 2015 or possibly trading back for him at the deadline if NJ can't re-sign him.


Frankly, I see that decision being made either near the end or after training camp. Seems the organization is high on both Eddie and Jake, and God knows there will be some decent backups available at the time. Even if they have to offer one of them a PTO or something. I'm not fussed.
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Re: Back in 2014/15. Out in 2014/15

Postby Hockey Widow » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:46 pm

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