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Re: The Fat Lady is warming Up!

Postby Arachnid » Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:44 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:Add to that every point we lose lessens the number of points the other teams need to clinch by and equal number. My hope is that it is over soon. Wanna see Jacob get some games and some of the kids in Utica get some ice.


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Re: The Fat Lady is warming Up!

Postby vic » Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:54 am

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Re: The Fat Lady is warming Up!

Postby herb » Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:02 pm

It's time for ol' yeller to be taken behind the barn and put out of its misery, so to speak.

I'd like to see more of Archie and Corrado, and get our first look at Markstrom and Grenier.
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Re: The Fat Lady is warming Up!

Postby Zamboni Driver » Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:07 am

mattola wrote:Image



Yep, they're done.
Oh well, looks like somewhere between 10th & 12th overall draft pick. :?
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Re: The Fat Lady is warming Up!

Postby Meds » Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:45 am

Zamboni Driver wrote:
Yep, they're done.
Oh well, looks like somewhere between 10th & 12th overall draft pick. :?


Why? As it stands now the Canucks are 21st overall.

20 New Jersey: 76GP - 80P
21 Vancouver: 77GP - 79P
22 Ottawa: 76GP - 78P
23 Winnipeg: 76GP - 78P
24 Carolina: 76GP - 77P
25 Nashville: 76GP - 77P

The Canucks have a good chance of finishing as low as 25th overall. That would certainly land them with something in the top 10. There is potential for top 6.
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Re: The Fat Lady is warming Up!

Postby Island Nucklehead » Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:27 pm

Meds wrote:
Zamboni Driver wrote:
Yep, they're done.
Oh well, looks like somewhere between 10th & 12th overall draft pick. :?


Why? As it stands now the Canucks are 21st overall.

20 New Jersey: 76GP - 80P
21 Vancouver: 77GP - 79P
22 Ottawa: 76GP - 78P
23 Winnipeg: 76GP - 78P
24 Carolina: 76GP - 77P
25 Nashville: 76GP - 77P

The Canucks have a good chance of finishing as low as 25th overall. That would certainly land them with something in the top 10. There is potential for top 6.


I would wager the Canucks going 2-2-1 over their past 5 (LA, ANA, COL, EDM, CGY). Gives us 84 points.

Nashville has ANA, DAL, SJ, PHX, CHI, MIN. Ouch.
Carolina has DAL, NJ, NYR, WSH, DET, PHI
Winnipeg has PIT, TOR, MIN, BOS, CGY
Ottawa has MTL, NYR, NYI, NJ, TOR, PIT

Remember New Jersey gets 30th overall pick no matter how they finish for the Kovalchuk deal, so if they finish below the Canucks we move up one.

Based on that list I don't think we catch Nasvhille. All these teams are also playing roughly .500 hockey, so I don't think we're going to "make up" much ground. If the wheels keep coming off in Toronto, they could get into that top-10 range too.

We'll see, but I imagine we'll be picking between 8-11.
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Re: The Fat Lady is warming Up!

Postby Zamboni Driver » Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:28 pm

Meds wrote:
Zamboni Driver wrote:
Yep, they're done.
Oh well, looks like somewhere between 10th & 12th overall draft pick. :?


Why? As it stands now the Canucks are 21st overall.

The Canucks have a good chance of finishing as low as 25th overall. That would certainly land them with something in the top 10. There is potential for top 6.


Yep, you're right. I should have said 6th - 11th ;)
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Re: The Fat Lady is warming Up!

Postby Meds » Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:22 am

Those 3 losses to Dallas are going to haunt this team.

For the Canucks to make the playoffs they will have to go 4-0-0 and the Stars will have to post a record no better than 0-3-2. That would bring their records to the following.....

Vancouver: 39-32-11 = 89pts
Dallas: 38-31-13 = 89pts

Unless I'm mistaken wins is the first tie-breaker still. If Dallas wins one more game the Canucks cannot make the playoffs because Dallas would have the edge in ROW and also the season series.

I just can't see the Stars playing that poorly through 5 games.
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Re: The Fat Lady is warming Up!

Postby Mondi » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:58 am

Although I'm to lazy to do the work, it would be interesting to figure out how many games this team lost while leading in the third, or even the last 10 minutes.

I know I was at a couple, LA, Chicago, and Florida come to mind.
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Re: The Fat Lady is warming Up!

Postby Hockey Widow » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:01 pm

Mondi wrote:Although I'm to lazy to do the work, it would be interesting to figure out how many games this team lost while leading in the third, or even the last 10 minutes.

I know I was at a couple, LA, Chicago, and Florida come to mind.


Let's not forget the debacle that was NYI 7 third period goals.
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Re: The Fat Lady is warming Up!

Postby Strangelove » Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:34 pm

Mondi wrote:Although I'm to lazy to do the work, it would be interesting to figure out how many games this team lost while leading in the third, or even the last 10 minutes.

I know I was at a couple, LA, Chicago, and Florida come to mind.


Some would say you jinxed the Kings in posting that yesterday.

... and further conclude that perhaps you jinx the Canucks when you attend games. :mex:

Hell, you just may be personally responsible for jinxing your Vancouver Canucks out of a Stanley Cup! :evil:

I mean... duh... those who believe in jinxes might say dat dere....
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Re: The Fat Lady is warming Up!

Postby Mondi » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:14 pm

I posted that today, after the game last night.

That said,I've had a bad record at games this year 2-5.

Then again, I was at game 2 of the SCF.

For those who believe in jinxes.
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Re: The Fat Lady is warming Up!

Postby Cornuck » Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:21 pm

So who would rather finish ahead of the Leaves and lose a spot or two in the draft?

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19 __ Toronto _____ 79 __ 2-8-0 __ Lost 1
20 __ Washington __ 78 __ 4-3-3 __ Won 1
21 __ Nashville ____ 78 __ 6-3-1 __ Won 3
22 __ Vancouver ___ 78 __ 5-4-1 __ Won 1
23 __ Ottawa _____ 78 __ 5-4-1    __ Won 1
24 __ Winnipeg ____ 79 __ 4-5-1 __ Won 1
25 __ Carolina _____ 78 __ 5-3-2 __ Lost 1
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Re: The Fat Lady is warming Up!

Postby vic » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:11 pm

Meds wrote:Those 3 losses to Dallas are going to haunt this team.

For the Canucks to make the playoffs they will have to go 4-0-0 and the Stars will have to post a record no better than 0-3-2. That would bring their records to the following.....

Vancouver: 39-32-11 = 89pts
Dallas: 38-31-13 = 89pts

Unless I'm mistaken wins is the first tie-breaker still. If Dallas wins one more game the Canucks cannot make the playoffs because Dallas would have the edge in ROW and also the season series.

I just can't see the Stars playing that poorly through 5 games.


First tiebreaker is regulation plus ot (row)

So Dallas has to go max 0-3-1 and Phoenix 1-1-1 (they have to beat DAL)

Nashville has all of a sudden entered the mix...they play each of Phoenix and Dallas once. Nashville can go 3-0-1.

If Vancouver wins out in regulation
Dallas only needs 2 point to eliminate Canucks
Phoenix needs 3 (they well end up with same points but 1 less row)
Nashville ideally beats both Dallas and Phoenix and loses one their remaining two.

Too much has to happen.

Dallas
Tue vs Nashville
Wed vs Columbus
Fri vs St. Louis
Sun at Phoenix

Coyotes
Tue at Columbus
Thu at Nashville
Sat vs San Jose
Sun vs Dallas

Nashville
Tue at Dallas
Thu vs Phoenix
Sat vs Chicago
Sun at Minnesota

If this happens:
Dallas - Reg Loss to Nashville, St. Louis and Phoenix - OTL to Columbus
Coyotes - Reg win against Columbus and Dallas, Reg loss to San Jose and Nashville
Nashville - Reg win against Dallas and Phoenix, 3 points against Chicago and Minnesota
Vancouver - Win remaining 4 in regulation

Final Standings
8. Van - 39-32-11 (34 ROW) = 89 pts
9. Pho - 38-30-14 (32 ROW) = 89 pts
10. Nas - 38-33-12 (35 ROW) = 88 pts
11. Dal - 38-32-11 (35 ROW) = 88 pts

Vancouver plays STL in the first round, who've they've beat all three times this season.
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Re: The Fat Lady is warming Up!

Postby Strangelove » Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:39 pm

Cornuck wrote:So who would rather finish ahead of the Leaves and lose a spot or two in the draft?


Me.

It'd be awesome to pick after them and still end up with the better player!

Although some may feel our Canucks, against the odds, are destined to win the draft lottery.

But then some may believe our Canucks, against the odds, are destined to make the playoffs.

2000-1?

Others still may believe our Canucks, against all odds, are destined to win the Stanley Cup.

30,000-1?

But I digress….

The odds of our Canucks picking a better player in the draft this year are very good.

These two teams will likely draft within a couple of spots of each other.
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