Prospects Thread 2013-14

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Re: Prospects Thread 2013-14

Postby dbr » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:08 am

Reefer2 wrote:Drafting college or university kids are mostly a waste of a draft pick.

If you are not in the AHL by 21ish you will not make the NHL as any sort of impact player.

Of course there are exceptions but I would say majority never make the NHL unless they quit school early.


Drafting anyone is "mostly a waste of a draft pick."

Picking a kid heading to the NCAA in no way precludes that player from turning pro if they are good enough for the NHL like say Ryan Kesler or Chris Higgins did.. even if they are not that good that early they can still pan out a la Kevin Bieksa or Jason Garrison.

Hell if you're picking late in the draft and taking a young player who is years away from being an effective pro (like most of them) it may be better taking a kid you don't have to sign for four years than it is taking a player you lose if you don't sign them within two..
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Re: Prospects Thread 2013-14

Postby Southern_Canuck » Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:39 pm

Thu Feb 6

NCAA

Minnesota 1 Wisconsin 2
Labate 1 assist, +1

OHL

Saginaw 0 Erie 3
Gaunce 1 assist, +1
Fox 1 goal (54th), even (selected 1st star)

Sudbury 0 North Bay 2
Liberati 0 points, even

Oshawa 3 Peterborough 4 (SO)
Cassels 1 assist, even

Kingston 10 Barrie 6
McEneny 1 assist, +1

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Re: Prospects Thread 2013-14

Postby Southern_Canuck » Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:55 pm

Fri Feb 7

AHL

Utica 3 Milwaukee 0
Eriksson 21 saves on 21 shots (selected 3rd star)

Archibald, (8) (Biega)
Huskins, (1) (Stuart)
Archibald, (9) (Biega, Welsh)

ECHL

Kalamazoo 3 Fort Wayne 2 (OT)

NCAA

Michigan 7 Penn State 3
Williamson 0 points, -1

Dartmouth 0 Harvard 1
McNally 0 points, even

Yale 3 Rensselaer 2 (OT)
Beattie 0 points, even

Maine 2 Notre Dame 1
Hutton 1 assist, even

Minnesota 1 Wisconsin 2
Labate 0 points, even

OHL

Peterborough 6 Kingston 7 (SO)
McEneny 1 assist, even

Belleville 4 Guelph 7
Subban 0 points, -3

Oshawa 3 Kitchener 2
Cassels 1 goal (18th), 1 assist, +1 (GWG)

Owen Sound 3 London 7
Horvat 2 goals (22nd, 23rd), 1 assist, +2 (selected 2nd star)

WHL

Portland 10 Tri-City 3
Cederholm 0 points, +2

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Re: Prospects Thread 2013-14

Postby Reefer2 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:08 pm

dbr wrote:
Reefer2 wrote:Drafting college or university kids are mostly a waste of a draft pick.

If you are not in the AHL by 21ish you will not make the NHL as any sort of impact player.

Of course there are exceptions but I would say majority never make the NHL unless they quit school early.


Drafting anyone is "mostly a waste of a draft pick."

Picking a kid heading to the NCAA in no way precludes that player from turning pro if they are good enough for the NHL like say Ryan Kesler or Chris Higgins did.. even if they are not that good that early they can still pan out a la Kevin Bieksa or Jason Garrison.

Hell if you're picking late in the draft and taking a young player who is years away from being an effective pro (like most of them) it may be better taking a kid you don't have to sign for four years than it is taking a player you lose if you don't sign them within two..


I just don't think they develop the appropriate skills playing 42 games in the University level. I know that the skill has increased I just think that when they get to the AHL they may have lost a step or 2 from when they were 18 and still in juniors.

Again not all.
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Re: Prospects Thread 2013-14

Postby Southern_Canuck » Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:20 am

Sat Feb 8

ECHL

Toledo 4 Kalamazoo 5
Myron 2 assists, +2

NCAA

Michigan 0 Penn State 4
Williamson 0 points, +2

Yale 3 Union 5
Beattie 1 goal (3rd), -1

Maine 2 Notre Dame 3
Hutton 1 goal (10th), -1

OHL

London 2 Erie 7
Horvat 0 points, -2
Gaunce 1 assist, +1
Fox 1 goal (55th), +1

Sarnia 3 Belleville 4
Subban 1 goal (11th), +1 (selected 1st star)

North Bay 1 Plymouth 5
Liberati 0 points, -3

WHL

Everett 3 Portland 5
Cederholm 0 points, +2

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Re: Prospects Thread 2013-14

Postby Southern_Canuck » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:54 pm

Sun Feb 9

AHL

Utica 4 Rockford 5 (OT)
Eriksson 32 saves on 37 shots

Archibald, (10) (DeFazio, Mullen)
Jensen, (9) (Tommernes, Welsh)
Jensen, (10) (Tommernes, Mullen)
Jensen, (11) (Pelletier, Grenier) (PP)

With less than 4 minutes left the refs give Rockford their 7th powerplay on a "faceoff violation". Rockford scores to tie the game at 4 (2 for 7), and go on to win in OT - anyway, at least Jensen broke out with a hat trick! He now has 10 goals in his last 15 games...

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First 26 games:
GP 26 G 1 A 3 P 4 -5 SOG 52 (2.0 shots per game, 1.9% shooting percentage)
Last 15 games:
GP 15 G 10 A 1 P 11 +3 SOG 54 (3.6 shots per game, 18.5% shooting percentage)

ECHL

Kalamazoo 2 Fort Wayne 5
Myron 0 points, -2

OHL

Sarnia 2 Kingston 4
McEneny 0 points, even (selected 3rd star)

North Bay 5 Windsor 6
Liberati 0 points, even

Plymouth 4 London 5
Horvat 1 assist, -1

Peterborough 0 Oshawa 4
Cassels 2 assists, +2

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Re: Prospects Thread 2013-14

Postby Benjo » Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:59 pm

Some positive news for prospects for a change. Jensen hat trick, first NCAA d-man to hit 10 goals (Hutton), and leading OHL goal scorer by mile (Fox).
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Re: Prospects Thread 2013-14

Postby Southern_Canuck » Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:14 am

Mon Feb 10

NCAA

Harvard 6 Boston University 2
McNally 0 points, -1

WHL

Portland 8 Prince George 4
Cederholm 0 points, even

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Re: Prospects Thread 2013-14

Postby Southern_Canuck » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:46 pm

Wed Feb 12

OHL

Ottawa 4 Belleville 3 (OT)
Subban 0 points, -1

WHL

Portland 6 Prince George 4
Cederholm 0 points, +1

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Re: Prospects Thread 2013-14

Postby Southern_Canuck » Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:15 pm

Thu Feb 13

OHL

Windsor 2 North Bay 3
Liberati 1 goal (5th), +1 (selected 3rd star)

Belleville 5 Peterborough 3
Subban did not play

London 11 Sarnia 0
Horvat 1 goal (24th), 1 assist, +1

2012-13 GP 67 G 33 A 28 P 61 PIM 29 +3
2013-14 GP 42 G 24 A 36 P 60 PIM 30 +19

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Re: Prospects Thread 2013-14

Postby Southern_Canuck » Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:08 pm

Fri Feb 14

AHL

Utica 3 Rochester 7
Eriksson 10 saves on 15 shots, pulled after the 2nd (Cannata 6 saves on 8 shots)

DeFazio, (7) (Stuart, Lepine)
Huskins, (2) (Ferriero) (SH)
Corrado, (4) (Friesen, Biega)

ECHL

Toledo 2 Kalamazoo 5
Myron 0 points, -1

NCAA

Michigan State 2 Penn State 2 (SOL)
Williamson 0 points, even

Wisconsin 1 Ohio State 2
Labate 0 points, -1

Harvard 1 Clarkson 0 (OT)
McNally 0 points, +1

Quinnipiac 4 Yale 0
Beattie did not play

Merrimack 1 Maine 2
Hutton 0 points, even

OHL

Barrie 1 Erie 3
Gaunce 1 goal (24th), +1 (selected 2nd star)
Fox 1 goal (56th), +2

Owen Sound 4 Kingston 0
McEneny 0 points, -2

Sarnia 5 London 9
Horvat 3 assists, -1

Ottawa 0 Oshawa 6
Cassels 0 points, even

WHL

Portland 7 Kamloops 4
Cederholm 0 points, even

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Re: Prospects Thread 2013-14

Postby sagebrush » Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:59 pm

Sacha Guimond had 3A & was +3 in his last two games with the Ontario Reign of the ECHL. He seems to be hitting his stride since being traded to a better team (from a crappy one).

After being named the ECHL 2012/13 defenseman of the year, his numbers dropped when his former team (Gwinnett) turned crappy for the 2013/14 season.
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Re: Prospects Thread 2013-14

Postby Southern_Canuck » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:17 pm

Sat Feb 15

AHL

Rochester 1 Utica 2
Eriksson 31 saves on 32 shots

Jensen, (12) (Sauve)
DeFazio, (8) (Lain, Biega)

ECHL

Fort Wayne 2 Kalamazoo 5
Myron 0 points, even

NCAA

Michigan State 2 Penn State 1
Williamson 0 points, -1

Harvard 2 St. Lawrence 2 (OT)
McNally 0 points, even

Princeton 5 Yale 7
Beattie did not play

Merrimack 2 Maine 3
Hutton 1 goal (11th), +1

Wisconsin 4 Ohio State 2
Labate 0 points, -1

OHL

Niagara 2 Erie 3
Gaunce 0 points, -2
Fox 0 points, -1

Owen Sound 1 Belleville 3
Subban 0 points, -1

WHL

Portland 7 Vancouver 4
Cederholm 0 points, +2

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Re: Prospects Thread 2013-14

Postby sagebrush » Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:55 am

Horvat back on top of his game

Last year, I might’ve been a little ahead in the goals department but I played in 67 games (in 2012-13). I’ve (surpassed my) point total from last year and I’ve only played (43) games. My offence has been better than last year.
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Re: Prospects Thread 2013-14

Postby herb » Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:55 pm

The Comets' game vs Toronto is going to be on SN360 at noon.
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