Topper wrote:Curb your enthusiasm.
mathonwy wrote:Topper wrote:Curb your enthusiasm.
SKYO wrote:in two years or so you'll reap what you sow the time I said we should trade Tanev while his value is high...as he will be going through a lot upper body injuries in his career...I have foreseen it.
Listercat wrote:This team looks tired. I think Torts has over played the top guys and that coupled with the travel has caught up with them. AV managed the players minutes knowing that over the course of a season the travel fatigue would wear them down if they played too many minutes. The very successful road trip before Christmas was the turning point. Torts has not coached in the West and it appears no one warned him about travel or he has ignored them.
Hockey Widow wrote:None of this is on Torts.
mathonwy wrote:Important question.
When does it stop being the players and start being the coach?
mathonwy wrote:We are definitely on the same page with regards to needing to trade certain parts of the team for pieces we need. It just sickens me to read posts advocating trading everyone including the kitchen sink and those posters not really acknowledging the impact that injuries have on a player's performance.Hockey Widow wrote:None of this is on Torts.
This is where I disagree though. None means 100% and I am of the opinion that Torts has some culpability in creating the situation we are currently in.
My criticism of Torts are:
- He has mismanaged the minutes of our top guys.
Whether its because of external pressures (GMMG/Aquilinis pressuring him to win now), internal ego issues, or personnel issues (looking at you Mike) or a combination of all three, nobody knows except for Torts. Regardless of the reason, I believe it's irresponsible and in the long run, it's detrimental to the player himself.
A recent example of this is last night. Seeing Hank in the state that he was in last night was a bit sickening and there is no way he should have been on the ice regardless of what Hank personally wanted to do. Hank played 20+ minutes last night and was one good body check away from getting carted away to the ER. Winning is a secondary thing when it comes to player safety.
As well, the whole Kassian situation is rather mind boggling. If there's a player that is aching to be ridden like a donkey for 20+ minutes a game, its Kassian's big body and his toothless grin. Instead, Kassian is treated like a child and punished for mistakes by having ice time taken away from him while Kesler and the Sedins are given more and more minutes.
- He has placed our bread and butter point getters (the Sedins) in situations where they are more likely to be injured (the PK).
At the time, I was in support of this as I bought into his explanation of getting the Sedins into the game. Now that I see the after effect, I'm not so sure. Being on the PK can only increase the wear and tear on a player's body and the Sedins aren't built like Shea Weber or Jerome Iginla. It's my gut feeling that there are a heck of a lot of unreported injuries right now and being on the PK only increases the probability of injury occurring. Again, just a gut feeling with no stats to back it up.
These two areas are where I feel Torts holds some responsibility for the current injury situation and overall crappiness of the team.