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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby RoyalDude » Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:37 am




Um you're missing an important comment - 'Tony is right'
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Hockey Widow » Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:48 am

Tony talks like we just lost our scoring touch when Torts arrived.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Boston Canucker » Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:40 pm

I saw that Mikael Samuelson is on waivers. He's got a 3 mill contract, over 35, and has scored 1 goal, so of course the answer is no, fuck no, but when I first saw the name I thought, hmm, maybe at first. Times are tough. I say, give the kids more of a go, Schroeder and Jensen. they'll make mistakes, of course, but especially w/Jensen, let's start to see what he's got...find the answer within the org
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby mathonwy » Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:28 pm

Boston Canucker wrote:I saw that Mikael Samuelson is on waivers. He's got a 3 mill contract, over 35, and has scored 1 goal, so of course the answer is no, fuck no, but when I first saw the name I thought, hmm, maybe at first. Times are tough. I say, give the kids more of a go, Schroeder and Jensen. they'll make mistakes, of course, but especially w/Jensen, let's start to see what he's got...find the answer within the org


Sammy is getting squeezed out by Detroit's plethora of young prospects. Vancouver on the other hand doesn't have the same "problem" so as long as there is no cap issues, I don't see any downside to picking him up.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Island Nucklehead » Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:36 pm

mathonwy wrote:
Boston Canucker wrote:I saw that Mikael Samuelson is on waivers. He's got a 3 mill contract, over 35, and has scored 1 goal, so of course the answer is no, fuck no, but when I first saw the name I thought, hmm, maybe at first. Times are tough. I say, give the kids more of a go, Schroeder and Jensen. they'll make mistakes, of course, but especially w/Jensen, let's start to see what he's got...find the answer within the org


Sammy is getting squeezed out by Detroit's plethora of young prospects. Vancouver on the other hand doesn't have the same "problem" so as long as there is no cap issues, I don't see any downside to picking him up.


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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby herb » Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:38 pm

Malhotra now has more goals than David Booth and Alex Burrows ($8.75M in cap space right tharr) and Vancouver is currently playing with only two NHL caliber centers.

Funny, I guess...


This is Samuelsson's last year on that contract...I'd be tempted to take a flyer on him. I have no idea if his shot is still any good, but if he sucks you can always put him back on waivers.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby rats19 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:47 pm

Boston Canucker wrote:I saw that Mikael Samuelson is on waivers. He's got a 3 mill contract, over 35, and has scored 1 goal, so of course the answer is no, fuck no, but when I first saw the name I thought, hmm, maybe at first. Times are tough. I say, give the kids more of a go, Schroeder and Jensen. they'll make mistakes, of course, but especially w/Jensen, let's start to see what he's got...find the answer within the org

I would ride the storm out with our young guys too BC. But what about..too much too fast philosophy?
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Island Nucklehead » Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:23 pm

herb wrote:This is Samuelsson's last year on that contract...I'd be tempted to take a flyer on him. I have no idea if his shot is still any good, but if he sucks you can always put him back on waivers.


The risk, of course, being that if nobody take him you're stuck with $2.1M on the cap when you send him to the minors.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby RoyalDude » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:32 pm

mathonwy wrote:
Boston Canucker wrote:
Sammy is getting squeezed out by Detroit's plethora of young prospects. Vancouver on the other hand doesn't have the same "problem" so as long as there is no cap issues, I don't see any downside to picking him up.


Well Mikael would have no worries of getting squeezed out here as there are no threats of good young prospects here like in Detroit with the potential of squeezing him out. Certainly not a plethora
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby rats19 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:08 pm

I have a wonderful idea!

One that would save alot of heartache, bickering and well just retain some piece of mind.


LETS ALL CHEER FOR ANAHEIM until such time as the Canucks get back to elite status and are again worthy of our consideration.

What say you?
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Lancer » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:12 pm

It can't get much worse, can it? It's not foreseeably possible for them to score fewer goals by putting Jensen and Schroeder into the lineup. I mean, FFS you have Dalpe and Richardson as your other two candidates for 2nd line C so how could you get less offense out of Schroeder?

The team still has a good chance of making the playoffs, and the revenue that comes with it, but you have to start thinking about next season and getting a head start on some of these kids who could be vying for a spot.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Boston Canucker » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:24 pm

mathonwy wrote:
Boston Canucker wrote:I saw that Mikael Samuelson is on waivers. He's got a 3 mill contract, over 35, and has scored 1 goal, so of course the answer is no, fuck no, but when I first saw the name I thought, hmm, maybe at first. Times are tough. I say, give the kids more of a go, Schroeder and Jensen. they'll make mistakes, of course, but especially w/Jensen, let's start to see what he's got...find the answer within the org


Sammy is getting squeezed out by Detroit's plethora of young prospects. Vancouver on the other hand doesn't have the same "problem" so as long as there is no cap issues, I don't see any downside to picking him up.


It's the cap hit/salary, he's untouchable. If he was at min salary or a PTO, maybe, but not for 3 million for over 35 player...can't do that
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Boston Canucker » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:30 pm

rats19 wrote: I would ride the storm out with our young guys too BC. But what about..too much too fast philosophy?


I don't think you throw them into the deep end and say the team is relying on you to save the day etc (that is, I wouldn't be the Oilers management who I wouldn't let take care of a kitten for a weekend!), but at this point, with the goal production so terrible the downside would be poorer defensive zone play likely but if the upside is one or two kids quicker on the shot that can get some more offensivce buzz goingand shake things up a bit, why not? If they struggle, especially Jensen, he can go back down, that's fine. He's probably a year or two away from regular starter anyway. I think Schroeder is the interesting cat here. He's got skillz, made some sweet passes playing last year, and could get some ice time now with injuries...Jensen you have to be careful about too fast too soon, but Schroeder, I say let him see if he can do it...hell, Dalpe is playing with D Sedin apparently next game, what's to lose?
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby mathonwy » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:59 pm

Based on the one single game that I saw last night between the Comets and Heat, I'm not hopeful for Jensen and Schroeder.

Jensen was given 3rd line minutes and Schroeder didn't make anything happen, was soft on the puck and kept on shooting the puck into the Heat defensemen's feet. Unfortunately the AHL doesn't keep track of ATOI and shots so no concrete stats.

A sample size of 1 game.. so take it for whats it worth.

I would say that we have a better chance with the guys we currently have versus doing anything with Jensen and Schroeder.

Suave might be interesting to bring up as a 3rd D pairing and a PPQB on the 2nd PP group.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes

Postby Hockey Widow » Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:53 pm

It isn't out of the realm of possibilities to call up a player or two who are marked as future potential starters and let them finish the season with the big club. The experience could be very valuable.

MG does this when he is trying to justify a trade. Kept Kassian, who was really Gassian when he joined us. Kept that D'man that came with him, MAG, and he got a lot of playing time. Dalpe is getting a ton of playing time. Now that JS is almost back with the club I hope he gets a real shot although it may take a few games for him to get into game shape. If nothing else I hope the Canucks "show case" him like they did Hodgson :mrgreen:

I'm all for bringing up a forward or two to play them in the top six. We have enough players to play the bottom six who are not producing in the top six. Can it get any worse? If nothing else it will make our bottom six harder to play against which might be a good thing.
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